OT Trump's Tariffs

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Originally Posted by Sclox

Who knows Bill, I wasnt there.

Suicide bombing is quite a common tactic by extremists.

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Sorry Sclox, I don't get your reasoning re suicide bombing. Who were the extremists, the escaped Israeli soldiers who were trying to get back to safety and used every means possible to show they were un armed or their trigger happy comrades who gunned them down in cold blood.

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Originally Posted by Sclox

Don't misquote me. The cockroaches I meant are HAMAS as you well know. Why did they drop munitikns in a small place? Because the above mentioned cockroaches were hiding underneath civillians.

Who said I was OK with Trump? He is a despicable human, I make no bones about it.

Native Amercans.. what? Who mentioned them? They were pretty brutal to each other before Europeans but thats a other story.

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I think it?s fairly clear to see from your responses you hold the Palestinians in equal contempt. Denying a genocide. While accusing me of it.

You eulogised Trump earlier in the thread. Respecting his changes, determination and vision. So you must be okay with him. This thread got side tracked because you couldn?t stand the thought of someone calling out a genocide.

Don?t act all confused. By your argument Native Americans have every right to seize all US territory. Similarly the Native Australians. Or is this an exclusive right to a particular group?

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Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie

Sorry Sclox, I don't get your reasoning re suicide bombing. Who were the extremists, the escaped Israeli soldiers who were trying to get back to safety and used every means possible to show they were un armed or their trigger happy comrades who gunned them down in cold blood.

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Put yourself in the position of the shooters in an extreme unexpected situation following the events of Oct 7th?

How were they to know who they were?

Are you on the wind up lad?

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

I think it?s fairly clear to see from your responses you hold the Palestinians in equal contempt. Denying a genocide. While accusing me of it.

You eulogised Trump earlier in the thread. Respecting his changes, determination and vision. So you must be okay with him. This thread got side tracked because you couldn?t stand the thought of someone calling out a genocide.

Don?t act all confused. By your argument Native Americans have every right to seize all US territory. Similarly the Native Australians. Or is this an exclusive right to a particular group?

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Israel warned where they were going to bomb. They allowed Gazans to work and live in Israel before they were barbarically attacked.

The Gazans train their kids to hate and want to kill Jews from as soon as they can walk. Many Gazans have stated intent to eliminate the Jewish people from the face of the earth.

Try looking at the facts about who wants to commit genocide.

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

I think it?s fairly clear to see from your responses you hold the Palestinians in equal contempt. Denying a genocide. While accusing me of it.

You eulogised Trump earlier in the thread. Respecting his changes, determination and vision. So you must be okay with him. This thread got side tracked because you couldn?t stand the thought of someone calling out a genocide.

Don?t act all confused. By your argument Native Americans have every right to seize all US territory. Similarly the Native Australians. Or is this an exclusive right to a particular group?

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I am not confused brother KSA. But I think you are. If the native Americans or Austrailians seized the respective lands back democratically. then I would have zero objection. You cant compare apples with pears. Don't get it wrong, Trump is a despicable human but he has a valid vision. There is a distinction.

I see an unprovoked attack by a nation on another nation that is a beacon of light in a shiithole of a region with many problems with many countries undeniably not democratic. HAMAS were democratically elected in their own agreed lands which doesn't include Isreal so the piper must be paid when they attack another democratically elected nation, accountablity must come into play. Its called war. HAMAS declared it. There is a reason why Isreal have had the "iron dome" missile DEFENSE system for decades.

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Originally Posted by toptoon

Israel warned where they were going to bomb. They allowed Gazans to work and live in Israel before they were barbarically attacked.

The Gazans train their kids to hate and want to kill Jews from as soon as they can walk. Many Gazans have stated intent to eliminate the Jewish people from the face of the earth.

Try looking at the facts about who wants to commit genocide.

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Do you have the training manual or a video or the audio. You seem to be very certain? And once again let?s not conflate Jewish and Zionist.

Multinational organisations like Amnesty International contends that the messages in Israel?s warning leaflets do not demonstrate an intent to protect civilians but rather to forcibly displace them, often to locations that are still active war zones. Such actions contravene the requirement for warring parties to distinguish between civilian and military objectives, constituting a war crime.

Why don?t you look at facts? One party who according to you ?wants? to commit genocide and the other who IS committing genocide.

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

Do you have the training manual or a video or the audio. You seem to be very certain? And once again let?s not conflate Jewish and Zionist.

Multinational organisations like Amnesty International contends that the messages in Israel?s warning leaflets do not demonstrate an intent to protect civilians but rather to forcibly displace them, often to locations that are still active war zones. Such actions contravene the requirement for warring parties to distinguish between civilian and military objectives, constituting a war crime.

Why don?t you look at facts? One party who according to you ?wants? to commit genocide and the other who IS committing genocide.

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What does this masterpiece of law say about Oct 7th?

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Originally Posted by Sclox

I am not confused brother KSA. But I think you are. If the native Americans or Austrailians seized the respective lands back democratically. then I would have zero objection. You cant compare apples with pears. Don't get it wrong, Trump is a despicable human but he has a valid vision. There is a distinction.

I see an unprovoked attack by a nation on another nation that is a beacon of light in a shiithole of a region with many problems with many countries undeniably not democratic. HAMAS were democratically elected in their own agreed lands which doesn't include Isreal so the piper must be paid when they attack another democratically elected nation, accountablity must come into play. Its called war. HAMAS declared it. There is a reason why Isreal have had the "iron dome" missile DEFENSE system for decades.

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Democratically seized? What democratic process was this?

The Law of Return, an law passed in 1950 and repeatedly amended since, guarantees Jews, their children, grandchildren and their respective spouses? citizenship. Not only does this law not extend to non-Jewish Israeli citizens, but it stands in stark contrast to the internationally recognized Right of Return, which states that Palestinian refugees should be allowed to return to their homeland and compensated for losses incurred during their forced displacement. But tell me again about Israel?s ?democratic? values.

****hole of a region? You ever been? Or is that the xenophobia creeping in again? The only ****hole would be the apartheid malignant tumour forced into the region.

And again with this unprovoked nonsense. You still have not addressed the calorie restrictions, restrictions on aid, restrictions on food, water, power, the restrictions on the people?s rightful income. That is not unprovoked. That is expecting the abused to hit back every so often.

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Originally Posted by Sclox

What does this masterpiece of law say about Oct 7th?

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Don?t keep deflecting. I?m sure the law would say the targeting of civilians was illegal, despicable and wrong. Just like the mass murder aka genocide of civilians in Palestine

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

Democratically seized? What democratic process was this?

The Law of Return, an law passed in 1950 and repeatedly amended since, guarantees Jews, their children, grandchildren and their respective spouses? citizenship. Not only does this law not extend to non-Jewish Israeli citizens, but it stands in stark contrast to the internationally recognized Right of Return, which states that Palestinian refugees should be allowed to return to their homeland and compensated for losses incurred during their forced displacement. But tell me again about Israel?s ?democratic? values.

****hole of a region? You ever been? Or is that the xenophobia creeping in again? The only ****hole would be the apartheid malignant tumour forced into the region.

And again with this unprovoked nonsense. You still have not addressed the calorie restrictions, restrictions on aid, restrictions on food, water, power, the restrictions on the people?s rightful income. That is not unprovoked. That is expecting the abused to hit back every so often.

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Gaza would have had its own water, power and food if the aid money was correctly used for infrastucture and not tunnels and missiles - think I said this before but you didn't feel the need to respond.

Fair point about shiithole, but I don't see many boats and refugees trying to get in to the surrounding countries do you? There are some fantastic places but unfortunately not too much democracy, womens rights or tolerance on show is there?