Originally Posted by
swaledale
What utter *******s - at the time of the Eu referendum, the official unemployment rate was 4.5%, "full employment" is around 4% when you factor in the lame, the sick and those not seeking employment -i.e. full time mothers etc.
Back around 2015-16 I had two children leaving school, one went onto University the other went straight into an apprenticeship - he had a number of offers - typical comments from the guys running the firm were its refreshing to see a 16 year old who actually wants to work hard and understands what is required to get on in life - we have interviewed literally hundreds of applicants who on paper have the right skills and qualifications but clearly don't want a job which requires one to actually work!
I might add that whereas my lad secured a position close to home, there were lots of opportunities if he was prepared to travel up to 20 miles away, and thats another factor, many of those complaining they can't get a job or at least a soft cushy number which suits them, aren't prepared to leave their own small area where they live - its noticeable that most of those with better qualifications do move to get the job they want.
Thats always been the case to an extent, I left the small village i grew up for my first job which was 20 miles away and then moved areas completely as I got better jobs. Most of the people I grew up with didn't move and stayed doing crap jobs.
My experiences over the past 10 years recruiting people also bear out the fact that even for reasonable paid office jobs (I'm talking here between £20K - £30K) depending upon entry level, there were especially in the latter part of the decade very few applicants in the first place and those that did apply varied in standard - certainly many firms I worked with ended up employing EU workers because of the low level of applicants and due to the fact they were able to demonstrate a better work ethic.
Blaming membership of the EU because various Uk governments have neglected to focus education and or job creation in favour of a exploitative economy is a prime example of being utterly blind to reality.
As for Poland/Hungary being an example of EU disintegration, frankly celebrating the rise of right wing neo-fascist governments is lamentable and a dangerous example of what happens with countries that turn inward with nationalistic propaganda.
Yes we will survive, I mean Zimbabwe survives but is an economic and social basket case, really is that the Brexiteers mantra? yeah we know we were lied to and we won't actually see any tangible benefits from Brexit but we won the vote!!!
Also swallowing the Tories' lies about the EU, which after all negotiated in good faith with this utter lot of fools, only to receive threats, insults and examples of bad faith - is that the image you want the world to have of the UK? A crack pot country which ignores international treaties, whose word cannot be trusted, who reneges on promises, makes insulting comments and ill advised threats? We used to be better than that, but clearly it plays to a substantial part of the voters. Meanwhile the rich get richer and the poor remain where they were.