O/T Democracy

I have to say even though I'm a brexiteer Johnson is an absolute disaster for the leave camp .

In my opinion his tactics have only succeeded in backing himself in to a corner , while he may keep his enemies at bay in the very short term its pretty clear to me it's only a matter of time before he will be toppled .

The way he's gone about it may appeal to some but I'd be amazed if the moderate tory voter are impressed by him and its the moderate tory voter that wins them elections .

My own opinions of the tory party never will be high but this lot belong in the gutter .

Once you get down to the level we saw last night in parliament from Johnson and his sneering henchmen at his side you know it's on borrowed time .

Johnson's tactics have only succeeded in making brexit about him v parliament and not the people v parliament he intended .

Which isn't to say his opponents have exactly covered themselves in glory either , far from it .
They will also have to face the electorate too in the very near future and many of them will be seeking alternative employment .

Although what a GE will change is anyone's guess .

I wasn't a fan of Boris' TBH but he wiped the floor with Corbyn and the opposition in the House of Commons yesterday.

So it's OK for large parts of the house to call Boris a liar for two months but it's not OK for him to use the word surrender.

In my view calling someone a liar is infinitely more inflammatory and possibly libelous than using an innocuous word like surrender.

Hypocrites the lot of them.

The MP for Dewsbury yet again raised JO Cox,s name in Parliament today. People are criticising the wrong person here.

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Originally Posted by great_fire

I wasn't a fan of Boris' TBH but he wiped the floor with Corbyn and the opposition in the House of Commons yesterday.

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You weren't but after last night's events in parliament presumably you are now .

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Originally Posted by animallittle3

I have to say even though I'm a brexiteer Johnson is an absolute disaster for the leave camp .

In my opinion his tactics have only succeeded in backing himself in to a corner , while he may keep his enemies at bay in the very short term its pretty clear to me it's only a matter of time before he will be toppled .

The way he's gone about it may appeal to some but I'd be amazed if the moderate tory voter are impressed by him and its the moderate tory voter that wins them elections .

My own opinions of the tory party never will be high but this lot belong in the gutter .

Once you get down to the level we saw last night in parliament from Johnson and his sneering henchmen at his side you know it's on borrowed time .

Johnson's tactics have only succeeded in making brexit about him v parliament and not the people v parliament he intended .

Which isn't to say his opponents have exactly covered themselves in glory either , far from it .
They will also have to face the electorate too in the very near future and many of them will be seeking alternative employment .

Although what a GE will change is anyone's guess .

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When it comes to Boris asking for an extension he should just say something like Dear EU, I have been forced to ask you for an extension. I personally think that if you allow it, it will show that you are weak as piss without us and you are desperate for us to stay. Anyway, would you give us an extension? Cheers, Bozza.

If he wipes his arse on the other side it may do the trick.

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

A referendum is fine but the result of this referendum would still have to go back through parliament for sign off wouldn't it? Where's Kerr when you need him? Kerr! KERR!!

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He has his uses. ;D Come back Mr Kerr, all is forgiven...

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Originally Posted by John2

OK, we've made genuine progress, I've identified the exact bit you're not understanding.

If your solicitor tells you a document is legally binding and it isn't... the document isn't legally binding. No matter what David Cameron said, or what happened afterwards, the referendum was never binding and it never will have been.

You can't go to the legal system and say "but my solicitor said it was binding", because they will say the solicitor was wrong, end of discussion.

Do you understand?

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Yes I understand & thankyou for your understanding
But what a sh1t way of putting your point over
BTW are you in the legal profession or are you Kerr under another name because your language is remarkably similar

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Originally Posted by rolymiller

He has his uses. ;D

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Originally Posted by flourbasher

So it's OK for large parts of the house to call Boris a liar for two months but it's not OK for him to use the word surrender.

In my view calling someone a liar is infinitely more inflammatory and possibly libelous than using an innocuous word like surrender.

Hypocrites the lot of them.

The MP for Dewsbury yet again raised JO Cox,s name in Parliament today. People are criticising the wrong person here.

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I think you'd struggle to find anyone in the tory party who privately doesn't think Johnson is a bare faced liar never mind the opposition .

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

I agree that I don't see a majority government of any colour emerging whilst Brexit still spreads its ugly manure. The problem is that the split in this parliament simply reflects the split in the country, completely down the middle. The next parliament will still represent the people in the country and therefore will be equally split as this one. If Cox moans that this parliament is "dead", his new parliament will be stillborn, because nothing will have fundamentally changed with the split in the people. I don't think an election would change anything on Brexit. Same arguments with some different faces.

A referendum is fine but the result of this referendum would still have to go back through parliament for sign off wouldn't it? Where's Kerr when you need him? Kerr! KERR!!

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He's closer than you think
Try shouting John