Originally Posted by
Trickytreesreds
Yes Blair did lie. He thundered in his speeches that invading Afghanistan was that he promised the defeat of jihadism and the promotion of freedom. "This is a battle with only one outcome: our victory, not theirs,"
He relished the war streak in him, in the same way as he did, dragging us into the invasion of Iraq.
Once in, it was harder to come out than it ever was to go in.
Iraq was about ego and political gains, both sides of the Atlantic.
Afghanistan was about revenge for ISIS attacks and to take down the terrorists home base.
Personally, I'd have backed the assault on Bin Ladens forces, but no way was it correct to stay there.
They had to learn, that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. My disdain, is that the back lash didn't stretch to Pakistan and Saudi.
It is also apparent, that the Arab world is absolutely piss poor at policing itself.
Factions within factions, reignited many tribal conflicts stretching back thousands of years. It also why, I am against the willy nilly flooding of Islam throughout Europe.
The trouble it has caused is there for all to see. Germany/France/Sweden/Belgium/Denmark.
It is ok talking about saving those "POOR REFUGEES", but the problems come with them as well.
Going in, gave us a responsibilty to stabilise and secure. We have failed and Biden exasperated the failure.
In his defense though, I will say this. I have read many stories of British combat vets, talking about training the Afghan army. Chocolate fireguard and the backbone of a jelly fish got mentioned.
If these people won't help themselves, what the hell did they think was going to happen?
Remember the Iraqi army surrendering in droves to drones etc?
same thing.
They outnumbered the Taliban by 4:1 yest folded like a pack of cards.
Now we are supposed to support a max exodus?
Sorry but Biden shouldn't have advertised a complete withdrawal like that.
His senility creeped out again.