Coco ban.

Kiko says he said you're f***ing sh 1t. Nketia says all he heard was the wordf****ing. Bonne says he heard you f***ing n****r. It would seem Leko heard nothing until Bonne said to him.

3 out of 4 seem to agree the word f***ing was used but only 1 seems to have heard the N word.

Kiko never changed his story but apparently there were inconsistences by both Leko and Bonne in various statements and testimony.

So the panel decides that Kiko probably said it because the other 2 are more believable and even though Nketia was called by the FA the panel brushed aside his evidence.

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Originally Posted by wortleygirl

Kiko says he said you're f***ing sh 1t. Nketia says all he heard was the wordf****ing. Bonne says he heard you f***ing n****r. It would seem Leko heard nothing until Bonne said to him.

3 out of 4 seem to agree the word f***ing was used but only 1 seems to have heard the N word.

Kiko never changed his story but apparently there were inconsistences by both Leko and Bonne in various statements and testimony.

So the panel decides that Kiko probably said it because the other 2 are more believable and even though Nketia was called by the FA the panel brushed aside his evidence.

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Agree 100%, Leko was/is just a pawn and its Bonne who seemed to react to the words said (at least so the video evidence would suggest), and until he spoke Leko, Leko didnt react, any fool can see that.

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Originally Posted by Jezleeds

'Using it amongst peers' is a strategy used by many groups who perceive themselves to be victims of abuse.

Gay people often use the word 'poof'; black people 'ni gger', Asian people 'Paki' - the idea being that 'reclaiming' or 'claiming' the word means it is no longer offensive and takes the power away from those using it in an abusive way.

So using it amongst peers is very different to it being used by someone abusively.

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Bang on 'bro and life lessons learned on Roundhay park Leeds tennis courts late 70's put to excellent grammatical use may I say Jez - Respect is apt ..........

When in Manchester a month back I was coming out of the Russian embassy and a group of 'male builders' working on scaffolding shouted abuse at me saying ....... "Fu*k off back home you Russian bitch and stop taking our jobs ............ "
I opened my car door turned to them and replied "I'm not Russian" and was greeted with "Well fu*k off back to France then" (French number plate on my car) .............

Abuse is abuse uttered by ignorance - xeno-racism to me seems rife in UK nowadays as its not a colour coded abuse but it's distressing to be on the receiving end of it.
In hindsight should have reported it but who would have listened in a Manchester side street late afternoon ?
In a football stadium I would have reported it without hesitation.


Just saying like.............

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Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior

Bang on 'bro and life lessons learned on Roundhay park Leeds tennis courts late 70's put to excellent grammatical use may I say Jez - Respect is apt ..........

When in Manchester a month back I was coming out of the Russian embassy and a group of 'male builders' working on scaffolding shouted abuse at me saying ....... "Fu*k off back home you Russian bitch and stop taking our jobs ............ "
I opened my car door turned to them and replied "I'm not Russian" and was greeted with "Well fu*k off back to France then" (French number plate on my car) .............

Abuse is abuse uttered by ignorance - xeno-racism to me seems rife in UK nowadays as its not a colour coded abuse but it's distressing to be on the receiving end of it.
In hindsight should have reported it but who would have listened in a Manchester side street late afternoon ?
In a football stadium I would have reported it without hesitation.


Just saying like.............

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But it's not just here in the UK (In fact, I'd say (in general) that it's less prevalent here than in many other countries). We have the disgraceful antics of those attending matches in Europe (east and west), Russia, the Peloponnese region, many of the countries in the Far East, South America. It's a global plague that for many of us harks back to a time when casual racism, misogynistic attitudes to women, homopohobic behaviour, abuse of all sorts, was regarded as "just banter", and we thought/hoped it had had its day, sadly not.

Don't have an answer (if I had I'd be a rich man!), just sometimes despair of a world where those who (in the main) have (whatever) and see nothing wrong in doing down those who have not.

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Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior

Bang on 'bro and life lessons learned on Roundhay park Leeds tennis courts late 70's put to excellent grammatical use may I say Jez - Respect is apt ..........

When in Manchester a month back I was coming out of the Russian embassy and a group of 'male builders' working on scaffolding shouted abuse at me saying ....... "Fu*k off back home you Russian bitch and stop taking our jobs ............ "
I opened my car door turned to them and replied "I'm not Russian" and was greeted with "Well fu*k off back to France then" (French number plate on my car) .............

Abuse is abuse uttered by ignorance - xeno-racism to me seems rife in UK nowadays as its not a colour coded abuse but it's distressing to be on the receiving end of it.
In hindsight should have reported it but who would have listened in a Manchester side street late afternoon ?
In a football stadium I would have reported it without hesitation.


Just saying like.............

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I think you should be reported for spending time in Manchester.

Now THAT is a crime. :mad:>:(

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Originally Posted by Jezleeds

I think you should be reported for spending time in Manchester.

Now THAT is a crime. :mad:>:(

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A public flogging at Elland Road required for that crime Jez. :mad:

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Originally Posted by wortleygirl

Kiko says he said you're f***ing sh 1t. Nketia says all he heard was the wordf****ing. Bonne says he heard you f***ing n****r. It would seem Leko heard nothing until Bonne said to him.

3 out of 4 seem to agree the word f***ing was used but only 1 seems to have heard the N word.

Kiko never changed his story but apparently there were inconsistences by both Leko and Bonne in various statements and testimony.

So the panel decides that Kiko probably said it because the other 2 are more believable and even though Nketia was called by the FA the panel brushed aside his evidence.

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Its got a 'Its Leeds United so we will shaft em at all costs' kind of feel to it.

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Originally Posted by Rev72

Its got a 'Its Leeds United so we will shaft em at all costs' kind of feel to it.

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Yes it has Rev..Unfortunately it won't stop you getting into the Premier league ..:o

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Originally Posted by Rev72

A public flogging at Elland Road required for that crime Jez. :mad:

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You're not bringing that place in Armley up again are you Rev? I feel a bit nauseous.

I think we have to accept what has happened (re punishment), the lad was on a hiding to nothing as the powers that be were always going to look for someone to make an example of following all the other incidents involving the crowds at some games. it will be interesting to see what happens to Dyer for his outburst - arguably more outrageous than anything that may have been said on the pitch where no one heard it.