OT - Dutch F1 Grand Prix 2022

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

....and here was me thinking it was because they didn't have go faster stripes down the side of the car. I don't pretend to understand anything of which you speak, Stenson, but it has been nice this season to see Russell emerge and prove to be (touch wood) the more successful driver this year. Nothing against Hamilton but it definitely looks as if it's all down to the car and not the driver

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Damned right, everyone knows its down to the colour and decals that look mean.
All that time wasted in wind tunnels.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

....and here was me thinking it was because they didn't have go faster stripes down the side of the car. I don't pretend to understand anything of which you speak, Stenson, but it has been nice this season to see Russell emerge and prove to be (touch wood) the more successful driver this year. Nothing against Hamilton but it definitely looks as if it's all down to the car and not the driver

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It's not all down to the car by any means, of course it needs to be a good car but loads of examples over the years of drivers in the best car not doing well and drivers in lesser cars doing well.

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Originally Posted by SithHappens

It's not all down to the car by any means, of course it needs to be a good car but loads of examples over the years of drivers in the best car not doing well and drivers in lesser cars doing well.

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When was the WDC won by a car clearly not the ‘fastest’? IMO as far back as the Keke Rosberg driven Williams

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Originally Posted by Andy_Faber

When was the WDC won by a car clearly not the ‘fastest’? IMO as far back as the Keke Rosberg driven Williams

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About 3 seasons ago the Ferrari was fastest but Hamilton won, further back the 2 Mclarens of Button and Hamilton were probably fastest but vettel won, further back the two mclarens of alonso and Hamilton lost to kimi, the beneton of Schumacher beat the quicker Williams

of course opinions opinions

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Originally Posted by SithHappens

About 3 seasons ago the Ferrari was fastest but Hamilton won, further back the 2 Mclarens of Button and Hamilton were probably fastest but vettel won, further back the two mclarens of alonso and Hamilton lost to kimi, the beneton of Schumacher beat the quicker Williams

of course opinions opinions

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Clearly was used deliberately - IMO your examples were marginal, the DFV powered Williams was on about 60% of the turbo's power, maybe 50% in quali

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Originally Posted by Andy_Faber

Clearly was used deliberately - IMO your examples were marginal, the DFV powered Williams was on about 60% of the turbo's power, maybe 50% in quali

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Marginal or not, the argument that its all the car and not the driver is wrong, I'm my opinion

Bottas had the same equipment as Lewis and allowed to race for victories but was never on Lewis' level

Put Latifi in a Red Bull, Ferrari or Mercedes and he's still be in the bottom 5.....

The thing is, the best drivers are in the best cars. The cars and drivers cost mega money.
The top 3 are fractions in ability and cars. Out side that, the gap is huge,
It would be interesting to see Hamilton and Vettel in a Williams against the rest.

You say that but when Russell was in a Williams last year Latifi got about the same number of points....