Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

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Originally Posted by BP33

Unfortunately, there is no so called sleeping giant. Our stay at home fans would still find an excuse not to turn up, even if it was a tenner.

Look at Facebook and Twitter, And DBF, the guys that don’t go, shout the loudest.

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We cud get our base up with a bit better pricing and marketing.

I said 10 years ago on here we shud have a target to get to 5,000 season tic holders and a plan on how to get there.

It won't just magically happen.

We have been really sloppy in that regard since before the yanks took over.

Other teams paying up next year's tics for example is a very good idea.

We seem so dependent on the same people buying every year.

We have to run the club better and the connection between the club and the supporters has to be better.....it can be better......but I'm not sure there's that much appetite for it from the club.

We seem to be an inconvenience at times rather than the beating heart.

The club shop is the perfect example.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

We cud get our base up with a bit better pricing and marketing.

I said 10 years ago on here we shud have a target to get to 5,000 season tic holders and a plan on how to get there.

It won't just magically happen.

We have been really sloppy in that regard since before the yanks took over.

Other teams paying up next year's tics for example is a very good idea.

We seem so dependent on the same people buying every year.

We have to run the club better and the connection between the club and the supporters has to be better.....it can be better......but I'm not sure there's that much appetite for it from the club.

We seem to be an inconvenience at times rather than the beating heart.

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Kinda what I think too. We seem under resourced. I think the Campy stadium will need more supporters to make it work so why not try to get more fans now. Youngsters are a big plus. How do we get more of them?
Used to have Junior Dees, Open Day where the players turned up to speak to fans. Apologies if these still happen and I don't know!

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Originally Posted by BCram

Kinda what I think too. We seem under resourced. I think the Campy stadium will need more supporters to make it work so why not try to get more fans now. Youngsters are a big plus. How do we get more of them?
Used to have Junior Dees, Open Day where the players turned up to speak to fans. Apologies if these still happen and I don't know!

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I think season tic membership the best way

I know this is a bit of a stretch.

And I know I've said in the past that people that are struggling financially ain't gonna go.....but now I think people that are ok financially have 2nd thoughts at times.

If there could be a way to let folk save infrequently towards a season tic.......a kinda DFC savings club with maybe 2 or 3 businesses across the city taking in money an outlet at club shop and a wee booth underneath Cox.

It's maybe far fetched.

But imagine beating hearts or Aberdeen, good game, 1 minute job to stick a fiver or tenner towards season tic as your coming out.

£400 in a oner is getting harder for a lot of people.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

There is an annual operating loss however is the loss not being covered by Keyes?

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That is a good question and unfortunately the Dundee Football Club Limited unlike the Dabs annual accounts are very basic and tell us very little.
The Dabs have an Annual General meeting for their shareholders every year but FPS will not hold an Annual General Meeting for the Dundee Football Club Limited shareholders.

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Originally Posted by BP33

As you well know these losses are covered by FPS. The debts are obviously going to increase, if the fans, don’t come out and support the team. Also due to the lack of facilities at Dens, our commercial opportunities are limited.

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I would not be surprised to see a General meeting of Dundee Football Club Limited shareholders being called on or after 21st May 2024 to increase the authorised share capital from its current £4 million.
On 21st May 2019 a shareholders General meeting was held where is was agreed after a vote that the authorised share capital was increased from £2 million to £4 million. It was stated at this meeting that the authorised share capital would not increase for five years.
On 31st May 2019 FPS carried out a debt for equity share transaction swapping £550,000 of debt for shares and the £550,000 of debt was cancelled.
There have been no debt for equity share transactions since FPS acquired a 75% shareholding a couple of years ago but that might change if the authorised share capital is increased from £4 million to £8 million.
All these debt for equity share transactions has the effect of devaluing the shareholdings of every other Dundee Football Club Limited shareholder.

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Originally Posted by BCram

Kinda what I think too. We seem under resourced. I think the Campy stadium will need more supporters to make it work so why not try to get more fans now. Youngsters are a big plus. How do we get more of them?
Used to have Junior Dees, Open Day where the players turned up to speak to fans. Apologies if these still happen and I don't know!

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As far as I am aware the last Fans Open Day was held in May 2012.
It was held on the Sunday immediately the last Saturday of the 2011-12 season and no players turned up to meet the fans.
There was an open training session last July where the players signed autographs from the young supporters after it ended.
I seem to remember it being stated at the Dee4life AGM on 11th November 2023 that Dee4life had offered to donate £5,000 towards the cost of restarting the Junior Dark Blues but the Club turned down their offer.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I think season tic membership the best way

I know this is a bit of a stretch.

And I know I've said in the past that people that are struggling financially ain't gonna go.....but now I think people that are ok financially have 2nd thoughts at times.

If there could be a way to let folk save infrequently towards a season tic.......a kinda DFC savings club with maybe 2 or 3 businesses across the city taking in money an outlet at club shop and a wee booth underneath Cox.

It's maybe far fetched.

But imagine beating hearts or Aberdeen, good game, 1 minute job to stick a fiver or tenner towards season tic as your coming out.

£400 in a oner is getting harder for a lot of people.

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I have never had a season ticket and I attend home games when I am in Dundee apart from home games against Rangers and Celtic.
However the problems this season with home games being cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch could result in some season ticket holders who have difficulty attending evening home games deciding not to bother renewing their season ticket for next season.
Three home league games have already been cancelled this season due to a waterlogged pitch resulting in them being rearranged for a midweek kick off.
Dundee FC season ticket holders living in Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow might find it more difficult to attend an evening game than travelling to Dens Park for a Saturday afternoon 3pm kickoff.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

We cud get our base up with a bit better pricing and marketing.

I said 10 years ago on here we shud have a target to get to 5,000 season tic holders and a plan on how to get there.

It won't just magically happen.

We have been really sloppy in that regard since before the yanks took over.

Other teams paying up next year's tics for example is a very good idea.

We seem so dependent on the same people buying every year.

We have to run the club better and the connection between the club and the supporters has to be better.....it can be better......but I'm not sure there's that much appetite for it from the club.

We seem to be an inconvenience at times rather than the beating heart.

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Spot on.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

I have never had a season ticket and I attend home games when I am in Dundee apart from home games against Rangers and Celtic.
However the problems this season with home games being cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch could result in some season ticket holders who have difficulty attending evening home games deciding not to bother renewing their season ticket for next season.
Three home league games have already been cancelled this season due to a waterlogged pitch resulting in them being rearranged for a midweek kick off.
Dundee FC season ticket holders living in Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow might find it more difficult to attend an evening game than travelling to Dens Park for a Saturday afternoon 3pm kickoff.

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Anyone who buys a season ticket these days isn't doing so on the basis that all, or even the majority, of the games are a 3pm Saturday kick off. The individual fans who can't or won't attend midweek evening games have long since stopped buying season tickets and are now either buying match tickets or not bothering.