OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

"I suspect however, that far from this being a serious response, you are in fact just posting provocative bull**** for your own amusement."

Takes one to know one

Toodle pip

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Well at least its clear that it isn't worth having a rational debate with you, which is fine, saves me wasting my time.

So, the latest wheeze is putting NI back into de facto membership of the single market/customs union. Sunak is trumpeting it as brilliant. IOt puts NI, he says, in a unique and advantageous position compared to every other nation in the world. Namely, borderless trade with both the UK and the EU. Didn't they have that pre-Brexit?

Didn't the rest of the UK have seamless trade with each other and with the EU pre Brexit?

If what NI is now getting, is so damned brilliant, why deny England, Scotland and Wales the same? I'll tell you why. It's because the 1% don't want to be taxed on the billions they have salted away in tax havens.

What should they have done? IMO leave the EU but remain in the customs union/single market. That wouldn't have screwed the economy.

There is a parallel with VAR here. Not much wrong with the idea but the implementation is awful.

It is also my opinion that the UK will return to, at least CU/SM, inside the next decade.

PS - sorry for getting back on topic and adding a football "parallel" ;)

One last point, this so called Windsor agreement beaks the Articles of Union and tears down a huge part of the wall preventing Scotland having a referendum. I think the planned referendum will go ahead and there's little, short of sending the troops in, and I wouldn't put that beyond them, they can do to stop it.

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Can't argue with any of that logic MA, a Norway would have been the best form of exit

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

There is a parallel with VAR here. Not much wrong with the idea but the implementation is awful.

It is also my opinion that the UK will return to, at least CU/SM, inside the next decade.

PS - sorry for getting back on topic and adding a football "parallel" ;)

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Continuing the parallel, shoulda gone for Hawkeye

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Originally Posted by Andy_Faber

Continuing the parallel, shoulda gone for Hawkeye

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Back off topic, Hawkeye would work well for checking if a ball has gone out of play/over the line as it monitors lines. How would it work with "was it a foul?" or "was he offside" when there are no lines?

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

Can't argue with any of that logic MA, a Norway would have been the best form of exit

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It would and was available, May in fact was heading that way, when the hardcore Brexit loonies in the ERG and ironically the DUP (Nooooo!) forced her hand. Then instead of adult negotiations with the EU we had Johnson acting like a child, threatening and insulting the EU and also insulting business with his infamous **** business remark. Its coming back to haunt the Tories.

Now though we have NI already experiencing stronger growth, that will be a benchmark against the UK economy, showing what the rest of the UK is missing. Mind you if it results in less tax payers money subsidising a UK colony I'm all for it.

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

Back off topic, Hawkeye would work well for checking if a ball has gone out of play/over the line as it monitors lines. How would it work with "was it a foul?" or "was he offside" when there are no lines?

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Sorry I was being too obtuse, Hawkeye = the Norway option

I thought Hawkeye was the Korean option, or at very least Iowan

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

Can't argue with any of that logic MA, a Norway would have been the best form of exit

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But the problem there, that old chestnut of immigration.
It seems Norway wasn't the desired go destination where free movement was concerned.

At the beginning of 2021, there were 800,094 immigrants living in Norway, of whom approximately 240,000 had a refugee background.

We have 6 million from the EU alone who applied for settled status.

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Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds

But the problem there, that old chestnut of immigration.
It seems Norway wasn't the desired go destination where free movement was concerned.

At the beginning of 2021, there were 800,094 immigrants living in Norway, of whom approximately 240,000 had a refugee background.

We have 6 million from the EU alone who applied for settled status.

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So Norway have 800,000 out of a 5 million population. We have 6 million out of 67 million population. So pro rata they have more immigrants. Was that your point?