OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

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Originally Posted by Andy_Faber

So here’s a great idea Swale, and I’m aiming it at you because you’re the only one who does it. Every time there’s an anecdote that doesn’t fit with your line of reasoning you actively try to discredit it and/or the originator, yet you offer any number of anecdotes of your own which you expect us to believe. My suggestion is that you either ease off on discrediting other folks anecdotes and focus on reasoned argument against them or accept that everyone of your anecdotes will be described by one or other of us as a load of invented bo-lox. Just a suggestion

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If some of you are unable to recognise reality and one of your previous posts above suggests this to be the case, then that's hardly my problem is it? I understand that many live in a fantasy land and that no amount of facts will later their views. I have some sympathy for these unfortunate people but not a lot.

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Originally Posted by swaledale

rA hit the nail on the head! The fact you think he missed whatever point you thought you were making, says more about your inability to look beyond your own narrow perspective on life. We have been here before and I ahve suggested you broaden your source of information and rely less on what you think you know!


Basically all of your anecdotes lack credibility! But you've shot your credibility so many times, with some of the daft things you have posted, that to be honest I doubt you can verify any, but go on give us a laugh by trying to.

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Now you’ve missed my point. I’m bothered about rA’s opinion not yours.

As for your fantasy about drive by shootings, give us all a break! You’ll say you were attacked by a dragon next!

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Originally Posted by Andy_Faber

Sorry but as usual you’ve missed the point

However, as you intimate that some of my anecdotes lack credibility I’m happy to verify any/all by pm. Shall I start with my friend the Syrian refugee?

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You can start with whatever you like, maybe the (wrong) conclusion you jumped to when your property abroad was broken into...remember that one? You don’t owe me any explanations...it’s a forum and, as you’ve conceded before, people over ‘elaborate’ sometimes to suit their agenda.

My only point is that...you accused Swale of being the ‘only’ person on here to be guilty of such behaviour in relation to his own anecdotes and those of others...that’s simply not true.

P.S. I don’t think there was any ‘fantasy’ about the 2011 right wing attacks in Norway which I imagine Swale was referring to.

As a point of interest I was in Oslo on business that week

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

You can start with whatever you like, maybe the (wrong) conclusion you jumped to when your property abroad was broken into...remember that one? You don’t owe me any explanations...it’s a forum and, as you’ve conceded before, people over ‘elaborate’ sometimes to suit their agenda.

My only point is that...you accused Swale of being the ‘only’ person on here to be guilty of such behaviour in relation to his own anecdotes and those of others...that’s simply not true.

P.S. I don’t think there was any ‘fantasy’ about the 2011 right wing attacks in Norway which I imagine Swale was referring to.

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Yes I recall that - obviously an honest anecdote as I owned up to drawing the wrong conclusion. You’re missing the point again

You clearly have a distrusting side to your personality, I assume your anecdotes are true as written, why would you exaggerate? And likewise, why would l?

No the issue wasn’t about the Norway thing, that wasn’t an anecdote it was fact. You’ll need to read back

Andy, I think the point you are missing here is that everything Swale cites in his posts are absolute irrefutable facts. Conversely, everything posted by anyone else that disagrees with Swale's perspective is merely anecdotal or the result of foolishly believing the right wing media.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

Andy, I think the point you are missing here is that everything Swale cites in his posts are absolute irrefutable facts. Conversely, everything posted by anyone else that disagrees with Swale's perspective is merely anecdotal or the result of foolishly believing the right wing media.

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Summarised better than I could. I was confounded by truth, you cut through lies

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Originally Posted by swaledale

On the other hand of course they did have a far right mass shooting, so your analogy is a little flawed. The UK wasn't overwhelmed with free movement, I mean you quoted east Anglia, which I know very well having lived and worked there before and post Brexit and in reality not one place is "A replica of Warsaw", not least because there are a number of Portuguese, Lithuanian etc. in the mix! Oh and rather than 6 million, the number of EU citizens post Brexit is closer to 5 million, but hey why bother with facts and reality when one can parrot the hyperbole dished out by right wing commnetators?

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Oh behave Swale, you really do believ that you are the only one to have a grip on "facts" in here don't you?
In 2021- As of 31 May, the government had received 5.6 million applications for the post-Brexit scheme that allows EU (and EEA) nationals to continue living and working in the UK after the end of this month.
The 6 million I got, was off a political program aired recently, as no doubt its gone up.

Even so, I'm no accountant, but 5.6 million was closer to my figure than yours.

NB, just a side note. You and RA told us they had all gone home in droves. So either your facts were wrong, or you made them up.
I don't don't doubt some left. But ALL OF THEM?

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

You can start with whatever you like, maybe the (wrong) conclusion you jumped to when your property abroad was broken into...remember that one? You don’t owe me any explanations...it’s a forum and, as you’ve conceded before, people over ‘elaborate’ sometimes to suit their agenda.

My only point is that...you accused Swale of being the ‘only’ person on here to be guilty of such behaviour in relation to his own anecdotes and those of others...that’s simply not true.

P.S. I don’t think there was any ‘fantasy’ about the 2011 right wing attacks in Norway which I imagine Swale was referring to.

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You mean Anders Breivik?
The lone nut job, who meany Norway must have a hidden Nazi party?

OK smarty panys, explain this one. Ernesto Elliott was supposed to be on a deportation flight to Jamaica, however celebrities and Labour MPs signed an open letter to ground the plane. Yes your Abbots/Corbyns/Lammys ALL SIGNED IT, to prevent a crimianl immigrant from deportation.
The same thing, one person!!!
Are all immigrants bad? Of course not. But like it or not, some are bad and our current systems will leave this open to abuse all the time. Never mind the social issues surrounding it.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

Andy, I think the point you are missing here is that everything Swale cites in his posts are absolute irrefutable facts. Conversely, everything posted by anyone else that disagrees with Swale's perspective is merely anecdotal or the result of foolishly believing the right wing media.

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