OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

The UK needs a credible 3rd party who will look after ALL sections of the populace from the 1% to the poor, the fit to the infirm. A party that will champion business but not at the expense of the workers. People before profit. proper living wage. Genuine windfall tax, not one offset by tax relief. If external circumstances see a 1 off downturn in profits similar to the current excess and obscene and unearned profits then give companies a tax break. Etc... one for all and all for one, basically.

If that fails we could always follow the French example and revolt...

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

The UK needs a credible 3rd party who will look after ALL sections of the populace from the 1% to the poor, the fit to the infirm. A party that will champion business but not at the expense of the workers. People before profit. proper living wage. Genuine windfall tax, not one offset by tax relief. If external circumstances see a 1 off downturn in profits similar to the current excess and obscene and unearned profits then give companies a tax break. Etc... one for all and all for one, basically.

If that fails we could always follow the French example and revolt...

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I rather think thats what Starmer is trying to do, even if he is rather unconvincing!! Me, I'm not really bothered in catering for those ****wits that voted for Brexit!!

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

The UK needs a credible 3rd party who will look after ALL sections of the populace from the 1% to the poor, the fit to the infirm. A party that will champion business but not at the expense of the workers. People before profit. proper living wage. Genuine windfall tax, not one offset by tax relief. If external circumstances see a 1 off downturn in profits similar to the current excess and obscene and unearned profits then give companies a tax break. Etc... one for all and all for one, basically.

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You make it sound so simple...and you’d certainly have my vote.
Think it is what Starmer is trying to do, but the forces of greed and misplaced patriotism make it harder than it needs to be.
‘People before profit’...looking after ‘ALL sections of the populace’...good grief! Just waiting for you to be denounced as an ‘idealistic snowflake’ or something similar.
A Green/Lab/LibDem alliance might go a long way to achieving what you seek and would actually be electable. Unfortunately (perhaps)...after recent experience, there will be much mistrust of any new Party.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

‘People before profit’...looking after ‘ALL sections of the populace’...good grief! Just waiting for you to be denounced as an ‘idealistic snowflake’ or something similar.
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Snowflake no, I think we’ve moved into a post-insult era, idealistic yes, ‘people before profit’ is not realistic although there should be a balance (which is what taxes are for), I’d go for ‘all deserving sections of the populace’(ie not sporting rights dodgers for starters)

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

The UK needs a credible 3rd party who will look after ALL sections of the populace from the 1% to the poor, the fit to the infirm. A party that will champion business but not at the expense of the workers. People before profit. proper living wage. Genuine windfall tax, not one offset by tax relief. If external circumstances see a 1 off downturn in profits similar to the current excess and obscene and unearned profits then give companies a tax break. Etc... one for all and all for one, basically.

If that fails we could always follow the French example and revolt...

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UKIP revival? >;)

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Originally Posted by Ramshank72

UKIP revival? >;)

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UKIP are dead and buried, wiped out in local elections , if Farage returned to lead the Reform party, then there maybe a place for the neofascist voter, but I see Farage has admitted on TV that Brexit has been a failure.

Of course the claims are that it wasn't implemented properly, though goodness knows what that would ahve looked like! I mean we chose a hard Brexit, ignored the reality of matters like Northern Ireland etc. and have ended up in the mess we are in. I note that immigration is forecast to be higher than pre Brexit this year, just not from EU countries, that will please the Brexiteers.

Then one gets loons like Widdecombe and Braverman claiming that UK workers could train to be fruit pickers, butchers etc. Mm one problem there aren't enough of them and even if there were, they don't live where the jobs are and we all know the average Brit hates living anywhere other than the place they were brought up in!

...and also hates working in a job that they feel is beneath them. Which is ok if it weren't for the fact that many have a bloated sense of self worth

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Originally Posted by swaledale

UKIP are dead and buried, wiped out in local elections , if Farage returned to lead the Reform party, then there maybe a place for the neofascist voter, but I see Farage has admitted on TV that Brexit has been a failure.

Of course the claims are that it wasn't implemented properly, though goodness knows what that would ahve looked like! I mean we chose a hard Brexit, ignored the reality of matters like Northern Ireland etc. and have ended up in the mess we are in. I note that immigration is forecast to be higher than pre Brexit this year, just not from EU countries, that will please the Brexiteers.

Then one gets loons like Widdecombe and Braverman claiming that UK workers could train to be fruit pickers, butchers etc. Mm one problem there aren't enough of them and even if there were, they don't live where the jobs are and we all know the average Brit hates living anywhere other than the place they were brought up in!

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Talking of which I saw the American equivalent this morning. Ticked all the boxes. On his pick up truck he had the following stickers, ‘Trump Won!’, a picture of a figure pi**ing on the word ‘Communism’, ‘Trump...Make America Great Again’, ‘BIDEN = Biggest Idiot Democrats Ever Nominated’, ‘My Family is Louder than Yours’, a picture of guns ‘evolving’ from a revolver to an automatic machine gun and of course a Confederate flag.
Don’t ya just love em? We didn’t stop to speak...although I did wonder if he was called Tricky. ;)

Farage said if brexit was a failure he would move overseas, off you go then and don't come back.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

...and also hates working in a job that they feel is beneath them. Which is ok if it weren't for the fact that many have a bloated sense of self worth

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Though to be fair most of those working above their pay grade do seem to be Tory MP's!!