Chalky, regarding your reference about religion to Frank on Cambridge United Mad

I recommend that you discover all that you can on the internet about Richard Dawkins. He is probably the word's best known evolutionary biologist and he knows plenty about all the other sciences.

He is resolutely a non-believer in any religion.

He has written many best-selling books about the sciences and his non-religious beliefs.

He married a former Doctor Who companion, actress Lalla Ward, who he met at a party for the 40th birthday of Douglas Adams, who was the show runner of Doctor Who for a couple of years. Dawkins himself briefly appeared in Doctor Who (the modern version) as himself offering some science advice on a television program about a strange phenomenon.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion


Richard Dawkins quotes
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quo...ichard_Dawkins

I'm not going to look into Richard Dawkins because I don't want his views rammed down my neck going by the quote that 6EQUJS provided

Dawkins will only give his negative views on Christianity just as a priest would give his positive views,I need to speak to somebody somewhere in the middle and that's why I asked Frank his opinion,he's been going to church all his life just as I have and thought that he fitted the bill

Thanks anyway

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Originally Posted by Chauncey

I'm not going to look into Richard Dawkins because I don't want his views rammed down my neck going by the quote that 6EQUJS provided

Dawkins will only give his negative views on Christianity just as a priest would give his positive views,I need to speak to somebody somewhere in the middle and that's why I asked Frank his opinion,he's been going to church all his life just as I have and thought that he fitted the bill

Thanks anyway

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Chalky, as a child at home and at school you have been force-fed religion with no chance for you to say "B­ollocks" because you have had to accept that the people feeding you this s­hite had authority over you and you had to believe this rubbish.

Yet you refuse to accept the very opposite point of view from a very intelligent person. This is not about going to someone who represents the middle ground. There is no middle ground.

When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong.

Here’s a starting point.

https://www.quora.com/What-did-Volta...-to-invent-him

It’s a discussion about what Voltaire meant, as a Christian, when he wrote that if God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him. He was writing from the standpoint of someone who believed that he existed (hence “if”) and thinking about the benefits of a God, though it can be taken to mean that God may not exist. Clever bloke Voltaire.

I believe that the notion of a God was invented to explain the unexplainable (the weeks get colder than it gets warmer; there’s no water for the crops, then it rains, there must be a force behind it.) Then once Gods (note the plural) worldwide were accepted bits were added to keep the downtrodden masses in place (Heaven, Valhalla etc.) it’s easier to accept your lot if you’re fed the line that there’s a comfortable life after death, with added virgins if you’re Muslim. Voltaire was right, but he needed to change “if” to “because”.

I find 6EQ a bit out there at times because reading the A&B forum he’s missed the entire point of the thread and it’s gone off at a tangent somewhat

If Chalky had been born of Pakistani parents in Pakistan, as a child his parents and teachers would have force-fed him the propaganda of Islam.
Now he would have been just as vehement about the Islamic religion. His refusal to even seek the opinion of those who oppose that brain washing is evidence of how formidably successful it has been.

It is utterly shameful that young minds should have religion pumped into them by any authority figure such as parents or the state education system. This should be abolished. The neo-adult mind should be untainted from youth and could then make its own decision.

Chalky does not believe in any God except the Christian God that appears in the King James Bible, which is a translation from the original Aramaic. There are no other Gods for Chalky. He is nearly there, just one more God to not believe in.

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Originally Posted by Blackdogblue

I find 6EQ a bit out there at times because reading the A&B forum he’s missed the entire point of the thread and it’s gone off at a tangent somewhat

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The Amber and Black thread is about going to church, which is presumably to do with religion. Indeed its title is 'Religion Frank ...'.
https://boards.footymad.net/showthread.php?t=38302557

?? Again why?… why don’t you stick to universe questions or illuminati theories..

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Originally Posted by Blackdogblue

?? Again why?… why don’t you stick to universe questions or illuminati theories..

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What substance is there to your complaint? In response to a thread about religion I posted a reply thread on here, the more vibrant board. Should I be restricted to universe and illuminati theories, which I have never addressed? What would be the justification for such restrictions?