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I was just doing my usual morning trawl through the TV schedules to see what I can record for future viewing and what catches my attention but JCS ready to download for viewing now on BBC iPlayer,I'm going to watch it over the Easter period (it be rude to watch it any other time) as I'm now genuinely interested in seeing it
Although 'Herod's Song' is scornfully witty, for me it is inappropriately done in a 'camp' manner. Herod was of course a weak puppet King, installed by the Romans. Perhaps it is 'camp' because when Rice / Lloyd Webber wrote the whole thing they were 17 years old. At that time the perception of 'camp' men was that they were weak, so Herod is shown as weak by being 'camp'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chauncey
In my opinion 'Herod's Song' is better done in the film made in the year 2000, with blustering menace that had no substance.
Oddly enough for a 2000 year old story the 1973 film is in some ways old fashioned in that the dancers in the 'Superstar' song are wearing gear that is very obviously of the 1970s.
Overall I do like the 1973 film and I have seen only YouTube videos of individual songs from the year 2000 film which seems to set the story in stark modern times and more like a stage play.
I was actually looking forward to seeing JCS and couldn't believe my luck when I saw it on iPlayer and then you drop this bombshell on me Stefan after all the praise that you heaped on it in the pastQuote:
Originally Posted by _Stefan_Kuntz
Don't spoil the ending because I hate it when people reveal what happens at the end of films
I like it as much as ever, I am much enthused about it. All that I am saying is that the Herod bit was not to my liking, you may like it, the words are witty enough. As for the gear worn by the dancers in the 'Superstar' bit I don't object. The irony is that such gear, in the context of a 2000 year old story, is what actually dates the film somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chauncey
I've been looking into who the actors are in JCS because tbh unless they are mega famous I won't know who they are and was surprised to read about Paul Thomas who played Peter,he had a successful stint in Hair before being cast in JCS and looked forward to having a career in tv and film but what does he do instead,star in over 600 p@rn films,spent the rest of his life starring and then directing them and by all accounts demanding more from the stars of his movies than most mainstream film directors,quite bizarre but fascinating,I wonder what made him change direction with his career?
For Rice and Lloyd Webber to write JCS at 17 is absolutely stunning,I don't know if I will love it or hate it but it's got be applauded
Maybe it wasn't such a change of direction if the attraction of playing Peter was that he liked the smell of fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chauncey
You had to take it down a level didn't you howoldboy 🙄
You started it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chauncey
Think about it though.
The smell of fish as Peter. The nudity in Hair.
The rest was inevitable. It was the way he was going.
Hmmmm....Quote:
Originally Posted by _Stefan_Kuntz
I've taken a quick peak at the film Stefan (literally the first five minutes) and I'm somewhat confused why you think that the clothes worn by the dancers don't fit into the film but completely missed the fact that Jesus,Judas and his followers all arrived to the crucifixion in a second hand American school bus with the cross strapped to its roof and if you are asking me Jesus seems to be showing just a tad to much enthusiasm for being nailed to the cross if you ask me,I've also had a quick flick through my well thumbed Bible and I can't find any reference to machine guns in it and your not happy with the clothes!
I'm presuming that they all get into a time machine and go back 2000 years or summat,interesting start and I'm guessing not a straight rendition of the biblical story,I've earmarked Sunday to do the whole movie and tbh I'm even more interested to see what happens now
Yes, it is breaking the 4th wall to supposedly show the actors arriving in a well used American school bus. After that the film properly begins with Judas singing 'Heaven On Their Minds'. The machine guns could be from almost any point in the 20th century but the clothes in the song 'Superstar' are obviously 1970s, so they almost specifically date the film.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chauncey
I do not mind any of the neo-modern stuff in it. The machine guns are making a point. I very much like the film from beginning to end. I find it funny that Melvyn Bragg was credited with writing dialogue. There is very little dialogue in it.
Have you seen all of the film and do you like it?