Allardyce Quote...

[JimmyV66]

"There are nine games to go, and our points per game are diminishing again. We've played 29 games and only got 31 points.

"That cannot continue, we have to keep more points ahead of our games total and do that to try and secure our Premier League position as quickly as possible."


It's logic and reliance on stats like these why Sam Allardyce is such a negative frustrating manager.

This is not an American sport Sam ffs!!

2 more years of hoping for 38-40 points. What joy.

[BlackDiamond]

[quote="JimmyV66"There are nine games to go, and our points per game are diminishing again. We've played 29 games and only got 31 points.

"That cannot continue, we have to keep more points ahead of our games total and do that to try and secure our Premier League position as quickly as possible[/quote]

I'm not a fan of hamster cheeks, however he is right. We play 38 games and we need are points total to be higher than our games played total.

This is something Fulham,Cardiff are only beginning to realise.

Quite how hamster cheeks thinks he can orchestrate and manoeuvre this outcome, is a secret only he knows.

[JimmyV66]

So you are happy that each year our ambition is to simply hit the 38-40 point mark.

Have that attitude and we will be in a relegation dogfight every year until we do once again get relegated.

The Sam way really has suckered far to many WHU fans in.

[Dailly___7]

In fairness, I think 10 or so clubs probably start the season off with the "get to 40 points and then see where we go from there attitude". Like it or not, we're an also ran in this league and always have been. How often are we completely safe from the drop with 10 or more games to go?

I think that would be the aim for us whoever the manager is and that's why I'm not a great lover of the Premier League. Hoping you can get 40 points every season is a bit depressing and boring. Which is why it's so painful to me that the current manager won't try to play some football, give the youth a chance and have a crack at the cups. We're not gonna finish higher than mid table without major investment, so at least give us something to smile about on other fronts!

[JimmyV66]

Im sure there are other managers who start the season hoping to simply survive, who's aim is to just get to that magic 40 point mark. But none are as open about it as Allardyce and i dont think that sends the right message to the fans or the players.

Only this week Sullivan and Brady were gloating over our pending safety and saying how right they were in backing Allardyce.

Back to back defeats and todays results not going our way has put us right back in the mix.

What is that saying again about not counting your echickens before they have hatched.


As for not trying in the cups and what he did against Forest, well i have said my piece and stand by it. We should have been fined and deducted league points. I have always said that about teams who treat the FA Cup with so little respect. We should be no differant.


PS the Premier league for many fans is not the be all and end all. But for certain clubs owners and because of how much money is involved it is. Pity.

[Dailly___7]

Regarding the FA Cup thing, I agree he was wrong to do what he did. It did our youngsters no good at all by throwing them in against a level of opposition they were not used to facing and worst of all it cheated our fans who had spent a lot of money to travel up their in numbers. I would hope he's learnt his lesson and won't do it again, but sadly he probably feels vindicated after we went on the winning run.

Not sure how deducting points in the league for what you do in the cup would work.

Would also open up a massive can of worms as then the FA would be virtually telling managers what their best team is. If Man City rest Kompany, Toure, Silva and Aguero for a home game with Wycombe, do they get fined even if they win?

That's my lot. Night all.

[daveinoz]

The OS is not going to accommodate those sort of values, and for that reason we will already be running out of time if next season doesn't show us competing in the top third of the Prem. in a stadium that big we will need to be seriously taking on the CL teams so punters know that those sort of games are credible contests. It will also need Euro football with the ilk of Benfica, Juventus, PSV et al as regular visitors . All very high minded I know, but anything less is not going to pay our way.

[jon15u]

" Not sure how deducting points in the league for what you do in the cup would work.

Would also open up a massive can of worms as then the FA would be virtually telling managers what their best team is. If Man City rest Kompany, Toure, Silva and Aguero for a home game with Wycombe, do they get fined even if they win?"


My thoughts exactly. Guess the only thing they can really impose is that the team must be picked from the 25 man squad with only a certain number of outside aditions. So the problem would really still be there.

[dagenhamJohn]

if you have 25 players to choose from, then you choose from 25 players

[only1salty]

[quote="Dailly___7". Like it or not, we're an also ran in this league and always have been. How often are we completely safe from the drop with 10 or more games to go?

I think that would be the aim for us whoever the manager is and that's why I'm not a great lover of the Premier League. Hoping you can get 40 points every season is a bit depressing and boring. Which is why it's so painful to me that the current manager won't try to play some football, give the youth a chance and have a crack at the cups. We're not gonna finish higher than mid table without major investment, so at least give us something to smile about on other fronts![/quote]

Totally agree with this. Sitting there watching **** for 89 minutes hoping for that one flick or corner to win 1-0 does not make a decent game.

I would rather lose 2 and win 1 play