In reply to Steve

[alexmick]

Apologies to those who dislike me quoting from the Official site, although I feel that this is relevant. Steve Davis said this yesterday:


“The players have lost some confidence because they have not been getting the reward for their performances and the criticism from a minority of our own fans doesn’t help them. The fans must realise what a difference it makes to have thousands of fans behind you and supporting you.


He added: “We are in this together and only together will we come through it. Is it not them and us. The team is everybody and I’m sure they will come out in their numbers on Saturday and sing their hearts out for us.”

So far this season I have only taken in the two L1 home games, so I cannot comment on the other matches. Following the home league drubbing by Rochdale, I feel that the performance and result merited the annoyance displayed by the crowd (which incidentally was not from a minority, as suggested by the boss). The fans were magnificent for the majo

[MikeSB]

Steve Holland was sacked for a run of poor results. So was Gudgeon Thordason and even Dario had to stand down for the same reason and so what would it take for the Board to sack SD? Especially IF money was available and he didn't take it.

Could we really envisage us going six, seven or eight straight losses with zero points and SD still in charge?

The question still remains as why we played Bolton like a steam train in full flow and yet can't get going in most other games? Is that the managers fault or the players or both?

In respect of the fans getting behind the team?

Who the *** is SD who is a newcomer to this area and this club to tell fans what they should do anyway? Should we cheer when we get beat by five goals the idiot!

The players need to show passion, commitment and energy for the whole 90 minutes and run and tackle as though their life depended on it and why they should only get paid when they do. But TBH why should they? They are only here to get the big move even

[AstonAlex]

It is not, in my opinion, unreasonable for the manager and players to expect the backing of the fans during the match. I have been to all of the home matches bar the Bolton game this season (which I refused to attend due to the Board's pricing structure) and I would have to say that the crowd were far more behind the team than in previous bad runs over the past 20 odd years. There was no booing and groans at individual players before they even had a chance, as has been the case with players such as Lunt, Shelley and Clayton in the past.

Granted, at full time the crowd gave vent to its feelings on what had preceded the final whistle, but after both performances against Rochdale I think that was justified. Our displeasure was, I think, aimed more at SD than the players and maybe he doesn't like that too much.

I believe that, as season ticket holders who help to pay his and their wages, we are entitled to an opinion, but that opinion is best expressed after the match and not during i

[alexmick]

Thanks for your considered opinions guys. I too believe that the fans do get behind the team for the large majority of games and I wonder where SD is coming from with these comments. I also don't agree with the barracking of individual players or disapproval during the actual games. Yes, fans do groan when an individual makes a glaring error which directly effects our chances of gaining something from a match (for example, Shearer's diabolical pass that led to that killer blow from the Rochdale forward, or the comical slip from the other Crewe keeper in the FA Cup against Wycombe a few years ago, which led to them taking the lead, only for us to come out winners by 4-1), but it is not many who mount a vindictive campaign against a certain individual, although it does happen. If we are beaten soundly at home (in fact thrashed, as we were against Rochdale) then I see no harm in spectators venting their anger at the overall performance / manager / board, at the final whistle. Steve D

[Stealex]

Anyone calling for Davis to go needs to take a good look at the situation first. Who else is going to step in to this sinking ship? At least last time our manager changed, the new manager could choose from the likes of Powell and Murphy. What is going to attract a decent manager to our club currently?

In my opinion, if Davis had money then he would've spent it. Davis is unfortunately a puppet for our poorly performing joke of a board. New blood needed on our board with a genuine interest in the club and with good business sense. Spitfire made a very good point about how pathetic our board are in terms of marketing our "product" and running a business. All they are interested in is selling young players nothing more. The fans mean nothing.

To summarise, vent your frustration at our board and in particular Norman Hassall. Booing and chanting against Davis will not help us on the pitch and even more so when you consider who we're playing today. If our team and manager are not motivate

[ChalkDust]

What would you say Stealalex if your opinion about if he had money he would have spent it wasn't accurate. I'm told there is decent money in his pocket to bring in up to 3 and the Board have asked him to spend it. Seems he isn't spending it and no-one knows why.

No Powell, Murphy etc I agree. So where are they then, that player type? Is he developing them? Its easy to say who'd come, but there are managers out there without a job and we can't just fiddle while Rome burns. He did great for a while and hasn't for a while, almost as long now. Why? He's the manager, he has to get ANY 11 better than it has been or what's the point.

I agree with much that you say, but what if money is there, then what are your thoughts?

[Stealex]

I guess my opinion was based on common sense but if inaccurate then I hold my hands up.

Is it a fact chalky or just what you have been told? The reason for asking is that could this not have come from that parasite Hassall in an attempt to divert our attention from him?

Plus even if Davis does have money to spend, that only means the transfer fees. We could spend 100k on a decent centre half but would they be prepared to accept 1k per week wages and only 1 year contract extensions when the time comes?

[ChalkDust]

What are facts? Same info from two good sources but we will never truly know unless Chairman said. I think its right as why would our Board, a good and supportive Board in the past, sit there and watch us rot. Different folks will believe different view though and nothing can be certain. I'm told the money has always been there and was urged to be spent last week, and on experienced loans to shore the team up, which makes sense to me. No sense for anyone in going down, means money spent last season was wasted.

Tactics, motivation, subs, reaction in game to game etc, all managers job. Why are CHs still getting games? All 3 are very bad but Ray has potential but needs a mentor along side, and that's not Harry.

Perhaps all the talk is wrong, perhaps it is a tight Board. But that doesn't account for straight league defeats does it. Not Boards fault they did well v Bolton and failed to show v Gills, same team.

[Stealex]

Don't get me wrong, I am equally as frustrated as everyone else with what's happening on the pitch and without doubt Davis is partly to blame. I guess that, given my area of work, I am currently more concerned with what's happening behind the scenes. Money has gone missing and we technically no longer own our ground. All my main concerns link back to one man.

Personally I'd rather have a club albeit in league 2 than have no club at all. That doesn't mean that I have accepted relegation, it's just the lesser of 2 evils.

[somersetcrewe]

Sorry, I don't buy this.
Far too early to point the finger solely at SD - partly, yes, solely, no.

Do you *honestly* believe he is sat on a wad of cash - and is refusing to spend it?
What on earth has he got to gain by doing that?
Unless he wants out and is refusing to walk ...? ... can't see it!

No, we need facts, REAL facts - not Chinese whispers!
I'm just not sure we'll get them though