what's the betting

[crashbang]

Labour get voted in again here ?
Stick a red rose on a pile of dog **** and it will be elected .

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

One of the few certainties in this uncertain world.

That's why it's a mess and will continue to be a mess.

[millmoormagic]

White, middle aged blokes who have their lives sorted, white middle aged blokes who have benefited from free school meals, free education, free health care, workers rights as normal, white middle aged bloke swho don't give a flying **** about those coming behind them, indeed abandoning them, the next generation having to run up massive debts to go into higher education, a generation of thos unable to pay so have to rely on zero hour contracts, doff your cap to get work, not stable work, but the odd hours here and there, the next generation where the employer can do whatever they want to, because there's no union back up, the next generation that will have to work till they're 70 probably, need i go on?

[sawmiller]

Labour get voted in again here ?
Stick a red rose on a pile of dog **** and it will be elected .

quit the constant moaning and move to another area - down south might suit you

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

White, middle aged blokes who have their lives sorted, white middle aged blokes who have benefited from free school meals, free education, free health care, workers rights as normal, white middle aged bloke swho don't give a flying **** about those coming behind them, indeed abandoning them, the next generation having to run up massive debts to go into higher education, a generation of thos unable to pay so have to rely on zero hour contracts, doff your cap to get work, not stable work, but the odd hours here and there, the next generation where the employer can do whatever they want to, because there's no union back up, the next generation that will have to work till they're 70 probably, need i go on?

Why not?

I'm sure you will anyway.

[monty_rhodes]

White, middle aged blokes who have their lives sorted, white middle aged blokes who have benefited from free school meals, free education, free health care, workers rights as normal, white middle aged bloke swho don't give a flying **** about those coming behind them, indeed abandoning them, the next generation having to run up massive debts to go into higher education, a generation of thos unable to pay so have to rely on zero hour contracts, doff your cap to get work, not stable work, but the odd hours here and there, the next generation where the employer can do whatever they want to, because there's no union back up, the next generation that will have to work till they're 70 probably, need i go on?

I agree with much of what you say, mmm. However, I find your inclusion of the descriptive "white" is illustrative of certain prejudices you have that continually let your analyses down.
You also miss the point that many of us middle-aged "sorted" people have children and grandchildren. I do and to suggest I am blind to their plight is wrong. I (and I'm sure others on here) have spend a large proportion of my saving paying off university fees, buying cars, paying deposits on houses etc.

[gwru]

If I vote it's always labour cause voting Tory would be akin to watching a Sheff' club.

Vote only if the party has a leader worthy cause our MP Sir Kevin Baron been to his surgery in Dinnington. May as well have seen landlord in our pub. Only voted for Gordon Brown in the recent General elections. Didn't vote for Blair, Milliband & won't be voting for Corbyne. Sorry about spelling but they're not worth checking correct spelling.

[millmoormagic]

I agree with much of what you say, mmm. However, I find your inclusion of the descriptive "white" is illustrative of certain prejudices you have that continually let your analyses down.
You also miss the point that many of us middle-aged "sorted" people have children and grandchildren. I do and to suggest I am blind to their plight is wrong. I (and I'm sure others on here) have spend a large proportion of my saving paying off university fees, buying cars, paying deposits on houses etc.

Fair point monty....

[millertop]

So what? Their choice isn't it or shall we ram it down their throats that you don't agree with their choice?

[MillerBill]

Labour get voted in again here ?
Stick a red rose on a pile of dog **** and it will be elected .

You can get 20-1 with 888bet,Conservatives are best price of 25-1 ON Ladbrokes. These are unbelievable odds for a two horse race.Cheeky Lib Dems say they are going for second spot to depose Labour.