media, pundits, ex players accusing Rafa of negativity

[toonlegend]

they should flaming come and have a look at some of the posts on here to know what
flaming negative is with a capital N

[waalsendmick]

I don't get all the furore.

ONE bad performance FFS!

also, I don't get what Rafa Is supposed to have done wrong.

he hasn't bad mouthed any 1st team players, he has simply made it clear which players are not welcome and are not part of his plans, he has then voiced frustration that the business side of the club has failed to move said players on, hence, hindering his bringing in of players.

two weeks ago, pundits were saying we would go down because we hadn't added enough to the squad, now they're Slagging Rafa off, for explaining to them why this is the case!

phecking pundits....

we went up last season because we had premier league players in the champo.....

..... we're going down this season because we have champo players in the prem.....


.... it's the same phecking players!!!

[sherwoodmag]

I think more on here dislike Paul Merson than like him but I think a statement he made last week has more than a grain of truth in it.He said the problem with Newcastles first eleven is too many of their players are too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Prem.

[Jammy89]

Well said Mick.

[pboromag]

Well said Mick.

even our goalie is saying rafas moaning is effecting the players

it might be a case of protecting their selves
but i dont see his constant whinging any way positive

i dont think i have seen any other manager accusing their owner ,or complaing about funds

iim sure all of them could do with more

im sure all of them havent got their first choice

but ours seems to want to highlite his plight

[toonlegend]

the differemce being that those other managers knew from the beginning, what they could have from their clubs - what needed to be done etc. and the plans were adhered too

whereas rafa was given his limitations for planning, then they moved the goalposts and limited him further.

[pboromag]

the differemce being that those other managers knew from the beginning, what they could have from their clubs - what needed to be done etc. and the plans were adhered too

whereas rafa was given his limitations for planning, then they moved the goalposts and limited him further.

have they how??

we all knew he would have to get players out
he hasnt

we all know playyers need to go ,very few have gone

we all know what he brought last season wouldnt be good enough

we are all aware of the psitions we need

i think the statment he can have all the money the club genertes for the club is probabaly one of the most clearest statments i have heard from ash

he has never said this season he wold put any money in

we all said when that statment was made that it would include players out and off the books

the deadwood

rafa knew what he had ,he knows footy ,he knows the powr of the players

you pressume everything is rosy in the other camps
im sure chris hasnt had as much or got the players he wanted due to the works on the ground etc

im sure the german is the same

and lets face it he hasnt brought wisely at the moment anyway ,still looking for keepers

i just cant understand how rafa feels let down

he was aware at the end of last season players needed to be gone if not just to trim the squad size

very few have gone or will go

he is still picking players he has said have no future

why not stick them in the stiffs and put development players on the pitch and send thme a proper message

[waalsendmick]

it's like broken record time.... but if you can do it, so can i....


the club would generate A LOT MORE money if advertising wasn't given away free.....


and.... Rafa doesn't sell the players the club does, he is frustrated they havent

[ex_pat_magpie]

Pboro, all you are doing with posts like this is constantly showing your lack of knowledge about the workings at this club.

So that you don't make these childish remarks again Write out 50 times.

Rafa is not responsible for getting players out. Charnley is.

Rafa wasn't responsible for their silly high wages and over long contracts. Ashley and Charnley were.

Once you have grasped this you will appear to have got the basics right for a start at least.

[ghostrider]

Pboro, all you are doing with posts like this is constantly showing your lack of knowledge about the workings at this club.
So that you don't make these childish remarks again Write out 50 times.

I'd hardly say his knowledge about the workings of the club is lacking any more than any of us if we want to argue a case.
He's saying it like he thinks, whether good bad or indifferent.
He's controversial with intent to spark debate.
As silly as it might seem, it does keep forums ticking much more than everyone just agreeing as a unit.

Rafa is not responsible for getting players out. Charnley is.

So Rafa has no say in what's what with the players. Is this what you're saying?
Does Charnley take massive credit for getting 30 million for Sissoko then?
Does he take the flack for buying in players and overcrowding the player pool leaving no room, whilst Rafa keeps on looking.
Rafa and co have to accept responsibility, not just Charnley and Ashley.

Rafa wasn't responsible for their silly high wages and over long contracts. Ashley and Charnley were.

I thought they were skinflints who wouldn't allow buys because of high wages?
Make your mind up.

Once you have grasped this you will appear to have got the basics right for a start at least.

I think he does grasp it but selective minds come to the fore.