Where do we go from here (STAY AS WE ARE, RESIGN or SACK)

[lancaster100]

Well we got what I expected - so what you might ask? Once the team was relayed the first reaction was - total negative, one up front no ambition. But with only three at the back for Chelsea meant that Vokes had no chance, This went on until the second goal went in and what did we do we subbed our one player up front with another one player (Wood) up front on his own with the same no chance affect. Now the game was gone and lost we send on Barnes for Hendrick and then Westwood for Cork. This negative way of being set up is no good and the lateness of substitutes is also a waste of time. It seems SD is unable to make the big decisions when they are needed. I remember going back a little when Oldham were doing quite well under Joe Royle and he would manovre his team to match the opponents defence so if there were 3/4 defenders Olham would have 3/4 attackers at least this made it one v one up front and for a time was really successful and ensured an energetic entertaining football which we sadly lack. I want to be entertained but this group are incapable of providing unless this is team tactics. The thing is that the board will have to decide what we do in January and here lies a dilemma do they give SD more money to spend or do they say no more money for SD the problem that then occurs is SD resigns or the board sack SD. If they sack SD then any new manager will have to be guaranteed money to spend so what will it be sack, resign or stay as we are? At the end of the day I invest my money to be entertained win, lose or draw and that is not happening I am getting a little fed up of the negative boring football that does not bring any entertainment value whatsoever

[The Bedlington Terrier]

When you are outclassed in every single position all over the pitch it is hard to blame the manager.

Until Hendrick presented Chelsea with the first goal I thought we were doing better than OK.

It's a long time I heard the Turf Moor faithful cheer when a player was substituted, but that was Hendrick's fate today.

For the love of God, SD needs to put either Long or Gibson in place of Tarkowski and put Tarkowski playing as a defensive midfielder.

How can an EPL team allow players to run thirty yards unopposed before they plant one in Hart's bottom corner? It's rubbish!

[Deadlydave]

As mad as I am about the lack of entertainment and poor decisions at times By Dyche we would not be worried so much about those aspects if we were collecting points. This season we seem unable to defend and keep clean sheets even on the off chance we manage to score and get some return from games. I am more mad at the board and transfer policy than anything else. Can anyone tell me why we signed Wells???? From a team that can't score!!!! Walters is another one; its an indicator of the type of player we are being forced to recruit because we will not buy players and pay them that actually are good enough to play at this level.The midfield situation perfectly illustrates this; we all knew that Arfield and Marney would not be here this season. The club knew that Brady and Defour would not be fit for several months possibly into the new season. So we don't recruit any midfield players over summer and start with 5 fit midfielders! Its just crazy and now our lack of depth and quality can't be hidden; we are rarely get over 35% possession in a game even at home now and create precious few chances that when they do occur we have GOT to score. I don't see how unless we change our mindset on buying and paying players it won't matter who manages us it will be a foregone conclusion that relegation will be a reality. No I am not saying we should buy Messi but we need creativity and quality in key areas and that has to be paid for. so, lets see what our board chooses to do. Don't hold your breath you might die.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Can someone please explain to me why we spunked £9 million on Vydra?

Wood came on today, he was so bad it was pitiful to watch. I'm starting to seriously think SD has lost the plot.

[alfinyalcabo]

Can someone please explain to me why we spunked £9 million on Vydra?

Wood came on today, he was so bad it was pitiful to watch. I'm starting to seriously think SD has lost the plot.

Wood isn't getting the support he had last season..Teams have "Sussed us out" .need a big spend in January..

[afloatinclaret]

...we are rarely get over 35% possession in a game even at home now and create precious few chances...

Pretty much like last season when everyone was happy, the only differences being that a couple of players had what may prove to be the best seasons of their careers - AB/Pope/Tarks - last year and ss Alfinyacabo notes, we've now been "sussed out" just as we were when OC took us up, it's just taken longer than half a season this time around.

No point in our dumping SD, we'll not attract anyone better, nor is there any point in our pouring money into buying/paying players, the amount we'd need to invest to make a difference is just too high:
Whilst in the EPL Burnley are not a club whom the best players will choose to sign for over and above another more central/big city/higher profile club and if there isn't any one of those chasing them too, then they're not likely to be any better than what we have already. The only way we'd attract that quality of established player would be to pay a premium for salaries etc and soon enough we'll be in financial trouble once again. Yes, we all know that we've got a bank full of EPL/TV cash, but it's comparative to winning the pools/lottery and splashing out on the the mansion and a couple of ferraris - buying them's one thing, the problem comes in funding their ongoing maintenance/running costs when the pot of gold begins to diminish.
For a club of our size even playing in the Championship is punching above our weight, so just keep the money in the bank both to carry us through any lean times and to invest in players once we're back in the Championship, at that point our investment capability is sufficient to make a significant difference and equally importantly, the quality of player needed to succeed at that level will find BFC an attractive proposition: Join Burnley and get the chance to play - even if only for a season or two - in the EPL, maybe even prove yourself with Burnley and attract the interest of one of those big-City clubs?

Aside from the need to now yo-yo between 1st & 2nd Divisions,this scenario's not a whole lot different from when I first began watching BFC fifty years ago: Once the salary-cap'd gone and players had a little more control over their careers, the young players saw Burnley as a team in which to display their promise and to the older guys it was a place to perhaps stretch their EPL career for another season or two..

[Altobelli]

We will not spend in January, if results/performances continue we will be in the relegation zone, The Board did not back Dyche and the team before the season started after a reasonable season and a good position of 7th, so I doubt they would buy good PL players to avoid that drop and fall into the Championship.

No, that ship has well and truly sailed, we missed it, we failed, we gambled, we closed the purse strings, which a lot of people could see was wrong, so the Board of BFC is to blame and no one else, they have been amateurish and below standard to run a PL team.

The Board can roll out any excuse they like, they have failed miserably, they are full of empty words and excuses, I remember Garlick saying in the last window "we are able to break our transfer window again" it never happened, just like when he said the same in the January window, then come all the excuses, I don't necessarily want to break our transfer window, I just want players with more class and talent than Hendrick, Lennon and as Deadlydave says Wells and Walters.

Dyche as I have mentioned before has his poor qualities (as does every Manager) so is not getting off scott free, but just think what he could have achieved with 2/3 quality players.

Hendrick in the team today while Vydra was on the bench was baffling for me today, but as Alf says, there may be unrest in the camp, maybe Dyche has had enough and cannot be arsed I don't know, but for me the MAIN fault lies with the second hand car salesman Garlick and his poor Management.

[Supersub6]

Pretty much like last season when everyone was happy, the only differences being that a couple of players had what may prove to be the best seasons of their careers - AB/Pope/Tarks - last year and ss Alfinyacabo notes, we've now been "sussed out" just as we were when OC took us up, it's just taken longer than half a season this time around.

No point in our dumping SD, we'll not attract anyone better, nor is there any point in our pouring money into buying/paying players, the amount we'd need to invest to make a difference is just too high:
Whilst in the EPL Burnley are not a club whom the best players will choose to sign for over and above another more central/big city/higher profile club and if there isn't any one of those chasing them too, then they're not likely to be any better than what we have already. The only way we'd attract that quality of established player would be to pay a premium for salaries etc and soon enough we'll be in financial trouble once again. Yes, we all know that we've got a bank full of EPL/TV cash, but it's comparative to winning the pools/lottery and splashing out on the the mansion and a couple of ferraris - buying them's one thing, the problem comes in funding their ongoing maintenance/running costs when the pot of gold begins to diminish.
For a club of our size even playing in the Championship is punching above our weight, so just keep the money in the bank both to carry us through any lean times and to invest in players once we're back in the Championship, at that point our investment capability is sufficient to make a significant difference and equally importantly, the quality of player needed to succeed at that level will find BFC an attractive proposition: Join Burnley and get the chance to play - even if only for a season or two - in the EPL, maybe even prove yourself with Burnley and attract the interest of one of those big-City clubs?

Aside from the need to now yo-yo between 1st & 2nd Divisions,this scenario's not a whole lot different from when I first began watching BFC fifty years ago: Once the salary-cap'd gone and players had a little more control over their careers, the young players saw Burnley as a team in which to display their promise and to the older guys it was a place to perhaps stretch their EPL career for another season or two..

Excellent post which highlights exactly where we are in the grand scale of things. All the more reason to enjoy the 'now' because you never know what is round the corner. We earned the right to be in the PL, even though we are amongst the paupers amd definitely amongst the unwanted! Our fans would do well to realise just what we have achieved in the last 10 years against the odds.

[sinkov]

Four games coming up against teams in the bottom half. We should have a better idea of just where we stand by December 1st. We need 6 points from those 4 games to bring us up to a point a game, and we need a point a game to have a reasonable chance of staying up. If we aren't up to taking 6 points from the next four games, then worst fears will be confirmed, and we really are in serious trouble.

[afloatinclaret]

...The Board did not back Dyche and the team before the season started...

...we failed...so the Board of BFC is to blame and no one else, they have been amateurish and below standard to run a PL team.

The Board can roll out any excuse they like, they have failed miserably...

...there may be unrest in the camp, maybe Dyche has had enough and cannot be arsed I don't know, but for me the MAIN fault lies with the second hand car salesman Garlick and his poor Management.

This presumably would be the Board who have taken an unfashionable, small-town club into the English Premiership, managed to be 'best of the rest' with last season's seventh place, whilst simultaneously getting the ground and training facilities back into club ownership and upgraded; all this this being achieved without turning to outside
and most particularly 'overseas' investment and its inherent risks. Indeed I'd guess that BFC are probably one of the most financially solvent clubs in the country (perhaps the whole of Europe?) and not 'at risk' from the whim of a single big-money backer.

Yep, it sounds to me like they've done such an appalling job, that the supporters of perhaps no more than seventy or eighty of the English League clubs would currently want to exchange boards of directors with us, as for a new Chairman, who's your proposal? Should we enquire as to whether Mike Ashley, one of the Venkys, or perhaps one of those nice Oyston boys from Blackpool want a job? Better yet, given Burnley FC's well documented reluctance to pay compensation to other clubs for 'poaching' their management staff, what's Peter Ridsdale doing nowadays?