Sam allerdyce on Alan Brazil show

[toonfalifekevbrown]

Just watched it on YouTube
He was talking about why he left Bolton
They were third at the time and playing in Europe
He asked the club to buy 2 players to push them in to champions League spot
That was his goal and he thought it was very achievable
The board told him they didn't want to be in the champions League
So he wrote out his letter of resignation
They came to an agreement where he would stay till the end of the season but it was leaked so he parted company
Weird how the owners didn't want that for their club

[usedtobeshearer]

Sounds like something Ashley would do.

[toonfalifekevbrown]

He said they set the target at 10th

[toonfalifekevbrown]

2 players he asked for
The league position at the time would have paid for them

[Jammy89]

I'd guess they were worried about future cost?

Had Leeds done a Leeds at that point?

But yes, it sounds bizarre that an owner wouldn't want that and yes, I agree it sounds like Ashley.

[ghostrider]

It can be looked on as a massive negative of course but the longer term bigger picture could easily create a real time
disastrous negative for the future of a certain club, depending.

Going the extra mile to gain the spoils of something like the champions league sounds like a no brainer but failure to achieve it can create a spiral downwards, in short order.
However, if the extra mile was taken and champions league was achieved...this alone could be the cause and effect of a club taking a massive downward spiral due to everything being ramped up to all hell in terms of transfers and fees, plus wages going past the sensible post.

Add to that the expectation of the fans being ramped up and you could very well be on deadly ground, kind of thing.
Very few clubs seem to be able to keep up that stance and those clubs are stood out like a beacon for all to see.

We're all playing a game of Russian roulette. I say all.....I mean all those clubs that try to push way beyond their means.
West ham is classic example of a club pushing way beyond its means.

Many clubs try it and suffer the consequences where there's no immediate way back.

[TheOtherTerryMac]

It can be looked on as a massive negative of course but the longer term bigger picture could easily create a real time
disastrous negative for the future of a certain club, depending.

Going the extra mile to gain the spoils of something like the champions league sounds like a no brainer but failure to achieve it can create a spiral downwards, in short order.
However, if the extra mile was taken and champions league was achieved...this alone could be the cause and effect of a club taking a massive downward spiral due to everything being ramped up to all hell in terms of transfers and fees, plus wages going past the sensible post.

Add to that the expectation of the fans being ramped up and you could very well be on deadly ground, kind of thing.
Very few clubs seem to be able to keep up that stance and those clubs are stood out like a beacon for all to see.

We're all playing a game of Russian roulette. I say all.....I mean all those clubs that try to push way beyond their means.
West ham is classic example of a club pushing way beyond its means.

Many clubs try it and suffer the consequences where there's no immediate way back.

Better to have tried and failed than never tried at all

We did try and very nearly got there but that’s all in our glorious past watching some of the most exciting football ever seen at St James’s Park. We weren’t called the Entertainers for nothing

All we have to look forward to now is a relegation battle every season

[usedtobeshearer]

It can be looked on as a massive negative of course but the longer term bigger picture could easily create a real time
disastrous negative for the future of a certain club, depending.

Going the extra mile to gain the spoils of something like the champions league sounds like a no brainer but failure to achieve it can create a spiral downwards, in short order.
However, if the extra mile was taken and champions league was achieved...this alone could be the cause and effect of a club taking a massive downward spiral due to everything being ramped up to all hell in terms of transfers and fees, plus wages going past the sensible post.

Add to that the expectation of the fans being ramped up and you could very well be on deadly ground, kind of thing.
Very few clubs seem to be able to keep up that stance and those clubs are stood out like a beacon for all to see.

We're all playing a game of Russian roulette. I say all.....I mean all those clubs that try to push way beyond their means.
West ham is classic example of a club pushing way beyond its means.

Many clubs try it and suffer the consequences where there's no immediate way back.

P1ss off.

[tinostongue]

It can be looked on as a massive negative of course but the longer term bigger picture could easily create a real time
disastrous negative for the future of a certain club, depending.

Going the extra mile to gain the spoils of something like the champions league sounds like a no brainer but failure to achieve it can create a spiral downwards, in short order.
However, if the extra mile was taken and champions league was achieved...this alone could be the cause and effect of a club taking a massive downward spiral due to everything being ramped up to all hell in terms of transfers and fees, plus wages going past the sensible post.

Add to that the expectation of the fans being ramped up and you could very well be on deadly ground, kind of thing.
Very few clubs seem to be able to keep up that stance and those clubs are stood out like a beacon for all to see.

We're all playing a game of Russian roulette. I say all.....I mean all those clubs that try to push way beyond their means.
West ham is classic example of a club pushing way beyond its means.

Many clubs try it and suffer the consequences where there's no immediate way back.

Could you explain to me what you mean by "in short order" you use it quite often, and I don't get what it means,sorry.

[ghostrider]

Better to have tried and failed than never tried at all

We did try and very nearly got there but that’s all in our glorious past watching some of the most exciting football ever seen at St James’s Park. We weren’t called the Entertainers for nothing

All we have to look forward to now is a relegation battle every season

I agree in that respect.
Football has went haywire.
We had the opportunity at that time to take the bull by the horns and just about did that. But weirdly, when we failed to get that form grip, that was when the tish hit the fan. This is when football went from the local sugar daddy with the odd millions and the bottle to go cap in hand to banks, to oil barons who went for immediate smash and grab the lot.

We can't compete with those even now....not yet...until that mental money merry-go-round is played on an absolute level playing field.
We could likely spend a few hundred million and have a right go at something. The problem is....what something?

All we'd likely do is have a squad of mixed up players among overpaid mercenaries who literally don't give a flying fluke about the club or the fans, or anything outside of their own bank balance.

Ashley's not stupid. I believe he knows we can't compete against those who are basically allowed to take the pedestals. I believe he knows we're all playing for the scraps from those placements of the usual suspect clubs.

As for trying. I think all clubs are trying but it's against the potential of scraps to eat but paying handsomely for the privilege of feeding on those scraps.

We could be a million miles worse off.
I happen to have a lot more optimism this season for much better football at the very least.