Ouch !!!

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Gomes injury for Everton

Not nice

[Scum-Triumphant]

Was a shocker. Ref handled it badly sending Son off though.

Should’ve asked Poch to sub him for his own sake.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Was a shocker. Ref handled it badly sending Son off though.

Should’ve asked Poch to sub him for his own sake.

Yes, I agree, Son had to go off he was obviously upset about it, even though it was the second collision that caused the break.

[animallittle3]

Shocking injury to witness with players visibly upset .

Hope the lad makes a full recovery and back in an Everton shirt very soon .

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

VAR reckoned it was only a scratch

[Brin]

Very bad break indeed and poorly handled by the Ref who is normally very good.

Not Son’s fault for the break and he was clearly distraught at seeing how bad the break to Gomes’ ankle was.

[Scum-Triumphant]

Very bad break indeed and poorly handled by the Ref who is normally very good.

Not Son’s fault for the break and he was clearly distraught at seeing how bad the break to Gomes’ ankle was.

You’ve been a ref mate. Is there a precedent where a ref can ask for a player to be subbed?

I’ve seen it in friendlies.

[Brin]

You’ve been a ref mate. Is there a precedent where a ref can ask for a player to be subbed?

I’ve seen it in friendlies.

No pal there isn't, neither have I seen or heard of this previously when reffing. Must have been a one off in the game you were watching and common sense prevailed.

To answer your question though, a Ref has no specific power or law he can use to force a player to be subbed. Furthermore, a Manager can request a player to be subbed but that player can refuse to leave the pitch. If this was to happen, the Ref must restart the game without further delay. It's then up to a club how they deal with said player.

[Gainsbro_Miller]

No pal there isn't, neither have I seen or heard of this previously when reffing. Must have been a one off in the game you were watching and common sense prevailed.

To answer your question though, a Ref has no specific power or law he can use to force a player to be subbed. Furthermore, a Manager can request a player to be subbed but that player can refuse to leave the pitch. If this was to happen, the Ref must restart the game without further delay. It's then up to a club how they deal with said player.

I am not a qualified ref but about 4 years ago I used to help out for a junior team (U11/12 level) that our youngest played for. It started once when a ref didn't turn up and both teams asked for a volunteer. I think the secretary 'forgot' to book refs after that, as I got to do more games that season.
Before each game I used to say to both managers, within earshot of the parents (especially the gobby ones!!) that I didn't want to use any yellow or red cards and if I thought a player was close to getting one, I would shout to the manager and suggest the he subbed his player (to cool down a bit).
I know it's different for a professionals in front of 40k crowds but at local level if you speak to people (players, coaches and even supporters) they tend to respect you more.

I'm 55 now but when I played regular football in Rotherham, it is something that a local referee (the Father of a local legend) used to do when he refereed our games. Unfortunately, a lot of 'modern' referees don't appear to be able to communicate what they're doing or why they're doing it.

[Brin]

I am not a qualified ref but about 4 years ago I used to help out for a junior team (U11/12 level) that our youngest played for. It started once when a ref didn't turn up and both teams asked for a volunteer. I think the secretary 'forgot' to book refs after that, as I got to do more games that season.
Before each game I used to say to both managers, within earshot of the parents (especially the gobby ones!!) that I didn't want to use any yellow or red cards and if I thought a player was close to getting one, I would shout to the manager and suggest the he subbed his player (to cool down a bit).
I know it's different for a professionals in front of 40k crowds but at local level if you speak to people (players, coaches and even supporters) they tend to respect you more.

I'm 55 now but when I played regular football in Rotherham, it is something that a local referee (the Father of a local legend) used to do when he refereed our games. Unfortunately, a lot of 'modern' referees don't appear to be able to communicate what they're doing or why they're doing it.

Gainsbro, good shout well done for your efforts.

When I Reffed the 'Misters', I 'always' started the same before every game. I would get there in plenty of time wherever the venue was and I would purposely call in the Captain and all his team for a chat. I applied this chat to both sides.

If no one would run the lines I said the following, 'Play to the whistle, I won't change my mind on a decisiosn no matter how much you want to express otherwise and the biggest one of all was don't use foul and abusive language unless it's a miss hit shot etc then it isn't directed at someone. Use foul and abusive language towards another player or at myself directly and I will dismiss with a straight red as it's not called for and we've come to enjoy a good game of football'.

The amount of respect this generated helped me into games that I knew were going to be difficult ones. Whether or not this also got me high scores I'll never know. I did however get some great thank you's from players. Like you said, a common sense approach and letting them know you would be firm but fair was a good tool to use.