O/T environment thread

[Silly-miller]

Looking around after I parked up (where old liquid club used to be) I noticed a lot of trash beer cans fish shop trays and crisp wrappers thrown into the hedges, as I kept walking I noticed tab ends on floor. This isn’t just local it’s all over the place. If this country was a hotel you wouldn’t even give it one star the hygiene is that bad and no one gives a damn.

But the saddest thing of all is when I was little on a clear night you could see the stars very clearly, now they are barely visible.

I do ask myself occasionally are humans really evolved or are we just as bad as a plague with our technology?

Just food for thought

[crashbang]

I went to a dark sky area. Fkn beautiful. Me and our lass laid on our backs looking up at billions of stars.
AWESOME

[CAMiller]

Agree with you about trash/rubbish Silly but not about the stars assuming you are a similar age to the rest of us. It can't be air pollution today compared to 50-60 years ago so it must be light pollution unless you need to sack your window cleaner

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Interesting maps here

https://geology.com/articles/satelli...at-night.shtml

[Brin]

Here's my take.....

It's hilarious, all these school kids keep preaching to us oldies that we've screwed up the planet!
Back in the 60's and 70's not a plastic bottle to be seen, it was all glass that we reused, pop bottles taken back to the shop. No plastic bags, loose food was brown paper bags, all sweet were bought in a 1/4 pound and put in a paper bag.

Mothers used shopping trolleys to carry heavy stuff or used a linen bag when shopping. You 'walked' to school from 5 to 16years old and did not jump into Mummy's 4x 4 for the trip to school. No Macdonalds or Burger King, plastic toys, no polystyrene food boxes for you to litter the streets with! We had used news papers to wrap our hot food in from the fish and chip shop!

Our milk was delivered 6 days a week by a man on an 'electric' float. Glass bottles were washed out and reused no problem! Same with the pop man.

Holidays were in a caravan at Skeggy/Mablethorpe if you were lucky, not a far off destination on a gas guzzling jet to a far off destination. So, I think these youngsters need to take a look in a recycled mirror and think is it my wasteful generation who are f.ucking up this planet???????
Here's my take.....

It's hilarious, all these school kids keep preaching to us oldies that we've screwed up the planet!
Back in the 60's and 70's not a plastic bottle to be seen, it was all glass that we reused, pop bottles taken back to the shop. No plastic bags, losoe food was brown paper bags, all sweet were bought in a 1/4 pound and put in a paper bag.

Mothers used shopping trolleys to carry heavy stuff or used a linen bag when shopping. You 'walked' to school from 5 to 16years old and did not jump into Mummy's 4x 4 for the trip to school. No Macdonalds or Burger King, plastic toys, no polystyrene food boxes for you to litter the streets with! We had used news papers to wrap our hot food in from the fish and chip shop!

Our milk was delivered 6 days a week by a man on an 'electric' float. Glass bottles were washed out and reused no problem! Same with the pop man.

Holidays were in a caravan at Skeggy/Mablethorpe if you were lucky, not a far off destination on a gas guzzling jet to a far off destination. So, I think these youngsters need to take a look in a recycled mirror and think is it my wasteful generation who are f.ucking up this planet???????

[Silly-miller]

Here's my take.....

It's hilarious, all these school kids keep preaching to us oldies that we've screwed up the planet!
Back in the 60's and 70's not a plastic bottle to be seen, it was all glass that we reused, pop bottles taken back to the shop. No plastic bags, losoe food was brown paper bags, all sweet were bought in a 1/4 pound and put in a paper bag.

Mothers used shopping trolleys to carry heavy stuff or used a linen bag when shopping. You 'walked' to school from 5 to 16years old and did not jump into Mummy's 4x 4 for the trip to school. No Macdonalds or Burger King, plastic toys, no polystyrene food boxes for you to litter the streets with! We had used news papers to wrap our hot food in from the fish and chip shop!

Our milk was delivered 6 days a week by a man on an 'electric' float. Glass bottles were washed out and reused no problem! Same with the pop man.

Holidays were in a caravan at Skeggy/Mablethorpe if you were lucky, not a far off destination on a gas guzzling jet to a far off destination. So, I think these youngsters need to take a look in a recycled mirror and think is it my wasteful generation who are f.ucking up this planet???????

No brin it’s not your fault it’s everyone’s fault yes you had no plastic and your way was a much better way of doing it but remember back in 60s and 70s air pollution was a lot higher. I don’t get why company’s go for plastic it’s much safer and cheaper to put things in tins, jars and bottles.

My mum likes John west tune and how sauce but they have gone from glass and tin to plastic and now she won’t have em

[WanChaiMiller]

Here's my take.....

It's hilarious, all these school kids keep preaching to us oldies that we've screwed up the planet!
Back in the 60's and 70's not a plastic bottle to be seen, it was all glass that we reused, pop bottles taken back to the shop. No plastic bags, loose food was brown paper bags, all sweet were bought in a 1/4 pound and put in a paper bag.

Mothers used shopping trolleys to carry heavy stuff or used a linen bag when shopping. You 'walked' to school from 5 to 16years old and did not jump into Mummy's 4x 4 for the trip to school. No Macdonalds or Burger King, plastic toys, no polystyrene food boxes for you to litter the streets with! We had used news papers to wrap our hot food in from the fish and chip shop!

Our milk was delivered 6 days a week by a man on an 'electric' float. Glass bottles were washed out and reused no problem! Same with the pop man.

Holidays were in a caravan at Skeggy/Mablethorpe if you were lucky, not a far off destination on a gas guzzling jet to a far off destination. So, I think these youngsters need to take a look in a recycled mirror and think is it my wasteful generation who are f.ucking up this planet???????
Here's my take.....

It's hilarious, all these school kids keep preaching to us oldies that we've screwed up the planet!
Back in the 60's and 70's not a plastic bottle to be seen, it was all glass that we reused, pop bottles taken back to the shop. No plastic bags, losoe food was brown paper bags, all sweet were bought in a 1/4 pound and put in a paper bag.

Mothers used shopping trolleys to carry heavy stuff or used a linen bag when shopping. You 'walked' to school from 5 to 16years old and did not jump into Mummy's 4x 4 for the trip to school. No Macdonalds or Burger King, plastic toys, no polystyrene food boxes for you to litter the streets with! We had used news papers to wrap our hot food in from the fish and chip shop!

Our milk was delivered 6 days a week by a man on an 'electric' float. Glass bottles were washed out and reused no problem! Same with the pop man.

Holidays were in a caravan at Skeggy/Mablethorpe if you were lucky, not a far off destination on a gas guzzling jet to a far off destination. So, I think these youngsters need to take a look in a recycled mirror and think is it my wasteful generation who are f.ucking up this planet???????

Maybe when we were kids in the 60s. We inherited this from the previous generations.

From the early 70s it was our generation that replaced bottles with plastic, that invented McDonalds, that got rid of milk floats, that created package holidays and low cost airlines, that have 3 cars in every family, that stopped using buses and trains, who habe 4 tv' in the house, who have central heating.

It was us that required a huge increase in need for gas electricity and oil to power our modern lifestyle.

16 and 17 years old are inheriting what we created.

[Lolmorgan]

Agree with you about trash/rubbish Silly but not about the stars assuming you are a similar age to the rest of us. It can't be air pollution today compared to 50-60 years ago so it must be light pollution unless you need to sack your window cleaner

Could be the brew ten after a few of them you could see little green men walking on the moon.

[Exiletyke]

Maybe when we were kids in the 60s. We inherited this from the previous generations.

From the early 70s it was our generation that replaced bottles with plastic, that invented McDonalds, that got rid of milk floats, that created package holidays and low cost airlines, that have 3 cars in every family, that stopped using buses and trains, who habe 4 tv' in the house, who have central heating.

It was us that required a huge increase in need for gas electricity and oil to power our modern lifestyle.

16 and 17 years old are inheriting what we created.

What real choice did we have to continue to use glass milk bottles little or none I didn't ask for McDomalds et al to be foisted upon us but glad I no longer have to clean out the firegrate ashes [on your central heating point]
A few years back there was a half-hearted objection to the over packaging of Easter eggs with the waste running into thousands of tonnes but they are still over packaged the same if not more
So all in all there is no restrictions on industry to cut out the waste as it's money/profits that count so feck the planet

[millertop]

Agree on the trash and there is some lazy ****ers about but take a walk and see how many bins you see, I don’t think there’s near enough and there’s just some things you wouldn’t put in your pockets.
Also waste sites needs to have a bit more common sense in what vehicle can go through the barriers.
Yes I’ve had to report a certain van driver waste of a space **** and glad he went to court