COVID-19 and Burnley Fans. An Opinion.

[Footymad]

Our week to week match commentator Dave Thornley and all round uber Claret gives his opinion on the COVID-19 crisis. - External Link

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Not an opinion I share Dave my old mate! I think Team GB needs to KEEP CALM & CARRY ON!

This is a 'flu epidemic, NOT the ****ing Bubonic Plague!

[Supersub6]

BT --our opinions don't matter --they never did!
We are in the hands of others---as usual, therefore, there is absolutely no point in worrying about things outside of our control. There will be no end of people who make themselves ill by worrying about what could or could not happen.
As I have always said --football is only a game, it is not a matter of life or death ---Coronavirus may well be someone's game but it could lead to life or death --who knows?
It will have done more for Greta and her cronies by keeping planes out of the sky, ships off the sea, deserted city centres etc., etc. ----she would not go to China to spout off because they would probably lock her up, but perhaps this is the alternative ---who knows? Stay safe mon ami!

[sinkov]

I remain bemused by the absolute pant-kacking panic over this virus.

Of course it's going to take some people before their time, maybe a lot of people, but mostly the elderly with 'underlying health problems', a polite way of saying coffin dodgers with not long to go anyway.

Road traffic accidents also take people before their time, around 1,700 a year, but the government doesn't tell football fans to stop travelling to games in their cars.

So does lung cancer, around 34,000 a year, mainly due to smoking, but the last time I checked it was still legal to sell cigarettes and the government is quite happy to rake in money itself from the sale of the cancer sticks.

So does the flu, it varies from year to year, but the deaths number in their thousands, and in 2014/15 just in England alone it saw off 28,330 people. I get a free flu jab every autumn, but that apart the government is quite content for me and everyone else just to take our chance.

Just looking at the above death rates which the government clearly feels are quite acceptable I can only see two options, either the government is getting it wrong and going way, way over the top in it's reaction to this virus, or it sees an absolute tsunami sized wave of deaths about to swamp the country, but daren't actually say so.

Got to be one or the other, there's no other explanation.

[blueheeler1]

I remain bemused by the absolute pant-kacking panic over this virus.

Of course it's going to take some people before their time, maybe a lot of people, but mostly the elderly with 'underlying health problems', a polite way of saying coffin dodgers with not long to go anyway.

Road traffic accidents also take people before their time, around 1,700 a year, but the government doesn't tell football fans to stop travelling to games in their cars.

So does lung cancer, around 34,000 a year, mainly due to smoking, but the last time I checked it was still legal to sell cigarettes and the government is quite happy to rake in money itself from the sale of the cancer sticks.

So does the flu, it varies from year to year, but the deaths number in their thousands, and in 2014/15 just in England alone it saw off 28,330 people. I get a free flu jab every autumn, but that apart the government is quite content for me and everyone else just to take our chance.

Just looking at the above death rates which the government clearly feels are quite acceptable I can only see two options, either the government is getting it wrong and going way, way over the top in it's reaction to this virus, or it sees an absolute tsunami sized wave of deaths about to swamp the country, but daren't actually say so.

Got to be one or the other, there's no other explanation.

Your argument isn't quite right Sinkov.

You can't catch Cancer and you can't catch a road death.

As for the "old" being coffin cheaters the issue goes a lot deeper than than.

We keep more and more people alive through better medicine and better treatment.

We also keep alive babies that would have died at birth but for medical intervention.

We keep severely injured people alive through better treatment.


And I guess with improvements in food generation and distribution we also keep alive populations that would have succumbed to famine or drought.

We either care about the population as a whole or we stop diminishing our gene pool and go back to the survival of the fittest.

How we react as a society determines just what kind of society we are and what we strive to be.

Overreaction to a possible pandemic is preferable to doing nothing in my opinion.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Your argument isn't quite right Sinkov.

You can't catch Cancer and you can't catch a road death.

As for the "old" being coffin cheaters the issue goes a lot deeper than than.

We keep more and more people alive through better medicine and better treatment.

We also keep alive babies that would have died at birth but for medical intervention.

We keep severely injured people alive through better treatment.


And I guess with improvements in food generation and distribution we also keep alive populations that would have succumbed to famine or drought.

We either care about the population as a whole or we stop diminishing our gene pool and go back to the survival of the fittest.

How we react as a society determines just what kind of society we are and what we strive to be.

Overreaction to a possible pandemic is preferable to doing nothing in my opinion.

In the UK 150,000 people die every year from cancer.

25,000 people die everyday through starvation or food deprivation.

3,000 children die every day because of preventable malaria infection.

This "pandemic" is about coercive control, nothing more and nothing less.

We are now informed in the UK, people who refuse to co-operate with home "self-isolation" will be forcibly removed and placed into either quarantine detention or prison and face a monetary fine of £1000.00.

George Orwell was right all along.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

John Pilger, spot on as always...

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

Coercive control plans rolled out...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp

[Balanbam00]

B T : Please explain what Pilger is saying how should I read this ?

''....or the countless blockade (...) on Iran'' or ''and Iran and its bombs on Yemen''? Neither America is bombing Iran ,nor the Yemen.
But whatever, any one can state a fact ,but what is the solution?

In our intellectual 'media' world ,nobody has any solutions! The people speaking do not really have a solution!

Even worse, people are becoming 'apathetic' to many problems in the world ,''If its not concerning me ,why should I bother''?


....and don't get me on Pilger on what he says about the ''Palestinians''

[sinkov]

"Your argument isn't quite right Sinkov.
You can't catch Cancer and you can't catch a road death."

Not my point Blue, despite 1,700 a year being killed in RTAs, and many, many more seriously injured, no one is discouraged by the government from travelling by road, so obviously that number of dead people is acceptable to government. Again, the number of deaths from lung cancer could be vastly reduced if the government banned the smoking of cigarettes, but they don't, so the number killed annually is acceptable to government.

All I am pointing out is that if the carnage caused by smoking and road traffic is acceptable, then the carnage this virus is due to wreak on us must be many times greater or they wouldn't be imposing the draconian measures they are proposing. That must be correct, if it isn't then they are over-reacting, got to be one or the other.