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    State pension

    There is now talk of rising the state pension age to 70 or even 75 after nearly 40 years of welding and heavy manual work how do they expect people to do this for 60 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost city albion View Post
    There is now talk of rising the state pension age to 70 or even 75 after nearly 40 years of welding and heavy manual work how do they expect people to do this for 60 years
    It won’t affect our generation though will it.

    Also, there’s going to be very little need for humans to do this sort of work in the future as robots etc take over this type of work.

    People have their whole lives to prepare for the end of work days be that 65, 70 or later, I’m short on sympathy when people find themselves reliant on State Pension in this day and age.

    I’m 60 this year and I’ve spent the last 25 years of my life making sure I’m covered when I’m 65-70, at times this has involved cutting back on things I’d like to have done.

    Too many people have a cavalier attitude to life and make no provision for the future in my opinion.

    In the two care homes my father has been in he’s been virtually the only person self funding which has been a real eye opener, most people don’t seem to save at all.

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    The state pension is one of the biggest payouts the Government makes so to save money after busting the economy they are now looking to eventually abolish the state pension.

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    Been paying into a works pension for nearly 25yrs at at 100 quid a week so im sorted as for robots we have them at work still need to load them in heavy industry robots are not always cost affective or viable.i understand where your coming from about the care home at the dentist one time out of a packed waiting room i was the only one who had to pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    It won’t affect our generation though will it.

    Also, there’s going to be very little need for humans to do this sort of work in the future as robots etc take over this type of work.

    People have their whole lives to prepare for the end of work days be that 65, 70 or later, I’m short on sympathy when people find themselves reliant on State Pension in this day and age.

    I’m 60 this year and I’ve spent the last 25 years of my life making sure I’m covered when I’m 65-70, at times this has involved cutting back on things I’d like to have done.

    Too many people have a cavalier attitude to life and make no provision for the future in my opinion.

    In the two care homes my father has been in he’s been virtually the only person self funding which has been a real eye opener, most people don’t seem to save at all.
    You might as well spend all your money and enjoy yourself because if you have non you’ll get given everything if you’ve saved you’ve got to pay for yourself

    Who’s the daft one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by viaductbaggies View Post
    You might as well spend all your money and enjoy yourself because if you have non you’ll get given everything if you’ve saved you’ve got to pay for yourself

    Who’s the daft one ?


    Exactly!! To many people are fixated with the state pension or paying into pensions that they miss out on luxuries and family holidays and end up in a wooden box six feet under!

    Enjoy life - lots of holidays - loads of time with family and retire early if you can!! Money or pensions mean sweet bugger all if you miss out on life and become a skeleton in the earth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    It won’t affect our generation though will it.

    Also, there’s going to be very little need for humans to do this sort of work in the future as robots etc take over this type of work.

    People have their whole lives to prepare for the end of work days be that 65, 70 or later, I’m short on sympathy when people find themselves reliant on State Pension in this day and age.

    I’m 60 this year and I’ve spent the last 25 years of my life making sure I’m covered when I’m 65-70, at times this has involved cutting back on things I’d like to have done.

    Too many people have a cavalier attitude to life and make no provision for the future in my opinion.

    In the two care homes my father has been in he’s been virtually the only person self funding which has been a real eye opener, most people don’t seem to save at all.
    I've constantly put extra money into investments and pensions from early on in my working life. Mainly for two reasons, one is that I learned quite early on about the benefit of compound interest, the other is that I don't trust any government ever to put my welfare first.

    I'm on track to retire hopefully in my early 50s. So I'm speaking as someone who has saved for an early retirement. But I have to disagree with your view here.

    No one knows what the future holds. I could get run over by a bus tomorrow and instead of saving - I could have lived a more luxurious life. Who is the mug then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Exactly!! To many people are fixated with the state pension or paying into pensions that they miss out on luxuries and family holidays and end up in a wooden box six feet under!

    Enjoy life - lots of holidays - loads of time with family and retire early if you can!! Money or pensions mean sweet bugger all if you miss out on life and become a skeleton in the earth!
    100%, I've been guilty of this in the past. Saving for the future instead of treating myself for the here and now.

    I was fixated on retiring at 40 at one stage - this when I was in my late 20s! My mindset has changed now and I'm treating myself to more luxuries.

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    Some incredibly stupid retorts on here.

    Firstly, my main point was that if you spend all your life and then want to exist on £150 per week State Pension ( I don’t know the exact figure ) then you deserve a miserable retirement.......you’ve had 50 years to sort yourself out.

    Secondly, did I say I’d lived a life of penury?

    25 years of successful business have afforded me the things I’ve wanted in life but more rewarding has been how I’ve been able to help my three kids.

    I made the decision not to just blow the money all the time, I’d paid off the bigger house I’d bought three years after moving in back in 2001 and could’ve lived mortgage free.

    I decided to remortgage and use the money as deposits to buy rental properties and the rents have paid the mortgage and thus they’ve cost me nothing to buy.

    The best decision I ever made, the only pity is that I didn’t inflict further pain on myself 15-20 years ago buy buying even more.

    I have a very basic life which suits me, last year I bought one new tee shirt, this year I changed my almost 5 year old car.

    Next year I’m off to Australia if they’ll let us in.

    I strike a balance between enjoyment now and knowing I won’t be queuing up to collect £150 at the Post Office 7 years from now and having to turn the heating off and put a rug over me whilst I watch TV.

    Like 123 days.....you can’t rely on any government!

    By the way.....the £150 will be gratefully received.......I’ll have paid in for 50 years at that point with not a single days claim due to unemployment.

    I’ll probably use the money towards house deposits for my grandchildren or to help pay for my care home.

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    If you have a company pension and are still working then my advice is to look at realistically what you can afford to pay in without missing out on to much and make additional contributions, any additional contributions you make come out pre tax hence if you are in the 40% band then for every £60 you see come out of your take home pay £100 goes into your pension, talk to your HR department about this. When you reach age 55 or your chosen retirement date you can take 25% tax free as a lump sum. Most pensions grow at over 5% when you average out fluctuations hence it’s the best way to save...

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