Points robbed

[Zippity]

So...the pen vs City...2 points gone

the pen vs Wolves...another 2 points

The made up added time/disallowed goal vs Liverpool-1 point (3 if you think they wouldn't have recovered from going 2 down)

The ludicrous disallowed goal vs Palace...2 points

So, those missing points would have had us on 14 points. equal 2nd with Man City

Now this isn't a thread complaining about those points that we've been robbed of-much as we'd be entitled to complain.

The point is that Howe is doing an absolutely fantastic job, especially when you consider we've had to use Jacob Murphy, Matt Richie, Almiron, Fraser and Chris Wood in those games. Anybody could argue that their team should have more points if they'd finished better or had that bit of luck, etc, but that's just football. But these are points that we actually did earn but, because of atrocious refereeing, were denied. (In fairness, we may have missed the pens against Wolves and Man City but we should have at least been given the chance to miss them )

We have some manager, like.

[ex_pat_magpie]

You just can't add anything to that.

Facts are facts, unless you are one of the darling socalled top six.

The sooner most of them are displaced, permanently, the better.

[TANYA_]

So...the pen vs City...2 points gone

the pen vs Wolves...another 2 points

The made up added time/disallowed goal vs Liverpool-1 point (3 if you think they wouldn't have recovered from going 2 down)

The ludicrous disallowed goal vs Palace...2 points

So, those missing points would have had us on 14 points. equal 2nd with Man City

Now this isn't a thread complaining about those points that we've been robbed of-much as we'd be entitled to complain.

The point is that Howe is doing an absolutely fantastic job, especially when you consider we've had to use Jacob Murphy, Matt Richie, Almiron, Fraser and Chris Wood in those games. Anybody could argue that their team should have more points if they'd finished better or had that bit of luck, etc, but that's just football. But these are points that we actually did earn but, because of atrocious refereeing, were denied. (In fairness, we may have missed the pens against Wolves and Man City but we should have at least been given the chance to miss them )

We have some manager, like.

i disagree mate, in my eyes we would have been on 17 points and 2 points clear on top of the league if the refs were competent

John Stones assault elbow on Schar = penalty and 2 points
Callum Wilson goal disallowed against Brighton for high foot = 2 points
Isak second goal against the red tramps = 2 points
Longstaff shirt pull against Wolves = 2 points
Own goal against Palace = 2 points

make no mistake about it Zip, we are being played by the PL and Big 6, i can smell a law suit coming soon. It was fine when it was just us, but now Villa, Everton and Brighton have started to shout corruption.

Our game against Palace was on live Spanish tv, the people who were commentating actually started laughing at the refs decision and the PL and even shouted corruption live on air

THIS is whats made the PL sit up and take note, the brand is now being damaged

[toptoon]

The klopp time in the Liverpool game was heavily questioned on espn in Brazil in the match analysis as well.
They couldn’t understand why so much was added and said the ref should’ve blown after our last attack.
I’m just relieved that other teams are suffering this too. It’s almost as if they’re trying to discredit var through incompetence.
All this after special training in the close season to improve the standard of refereeing ffs.

The refs are allowing more physical tackles to pass but as soon as a goal is scored after one, the var calls it and they go back to giving a foul for almost nothing. The inconsistency is glaring.

[Jammy89]

It's good it isn't just us complaining - they'd use that against us somehow.

4 or 5 others, particularly ones that at times have looked like breaking the top 6 complain. . . starts to make VAR look like what it is.

Keep the top 6 as the top 6.

[Zippity]

Keep the top 6 as the top 6.

Same as FFP.

'Everyone in the party we want to be in?...right, lock the door'.

[toptoon]

Same as FFP.

'Everyone in the party we want to be in?...right, lock the door'.

Spot on. They don’t even try to hide this type of thing especially with that super league farce. The lack of punishment for that was embarrassing.

[ex_pat_magpie]

Spot on. They don’t even try to hide this type of thing especially with that super league farce. The lack of punishment for that was embarrassing.

That's because the F.A, are terrified to upset one of the so called top six.

Money talks you know.

[Zippity]

What was it...a £15 million fine shared between the 6 of them??

And folk doubt there's a pro-big 6 bias?

[trinitoon]

If we would just get a silly little fine, I'd say f'uck FFP and just blow through the ceiling.

Knowing these b'astards, we would probably be transfer banned for a couple of years while others get fines that even their players could pay in a couple of weeks' wages.