Our new owners

[sinkov]

This is how they operate,

"Erik Pieters has been in football long enough to see most things but he hadn't witnessed anything quite like his Burnley exit. The 34-year-old left Turf Moor in the summer after a lack of communication from a Clarets hierarchy who then refused to let him train with the club to maintain his fitness and increase the body count in pre-season. It was a sad end to an enjoyable chapter of the Dutchman's career."

https://www.lancs.live/sport/footbal...-pace-24986942

Vinni says they're good people, I'm not sure Erik agrees.

[Vintage Claret]

I liked Erik as a player and would happily have seen him given a new contract. He says he was offered a new contract but refused the offer, not being privy to that contract offer it is impossible to say if the offer was fair or not.

Once his contract came to an end he was no longer a Burnley player, so do the club need to actually tell him his contract has ended, or should his agent be the one advising him.

I would assume that the facilities at Gawthorpe are not infinite and with the number of players being expected to be brought in would there been enough facilities to allow all our out of contract players to continue to train there. If they offered to allow Erik to train at Gawthorpe would others have expected to be allowed the same.

There is also the question of insurance for people not employed by the club.

As for the remarks about the sacking of Sean Dyche, this was surely a matter of the owners thinking it was best for the club, after all it was to cause them a massive compensation pay out to terminate his contract regardless of if it was a lump sum or keeping paying his salary for the period of his contract.

[sinkov]

I liked Erik as a player and would happily have seen him given a new contract. He says he was offered a new contract but refused the offer, not being privy to that contract offer it is impossible to say if the offer was fair or not.

Once his contract came to an end he was no longer a Burnley player, so do the club need to actually tell him his contract has ended, or should his agent be the one advising him.

I would assume that the facilities at Gawthorpe are not infinite and with the number of players being expected to be brought in would there been enough facilities to allow all our out of contract players to continue to train there. If they offered to allow Erik to train at Gawthorpe would others have expected to be allowed the same.

There is also the question of insurance for people not employed by the club.

As for the remarks about the sacking of Sean Dyche, this was surely a matter of the owners thinking it was best for the club, after all it was to cause them a massive compensation pay out to terminate his contract regardless of if it was a lump sum or keeping paying his salary for the period of his contract.

It does seem that Erik thinks that the way he was treated by the hierarchy at BFC was 'unusual' VC. He's been in football a long time, he knows how it's usually done, I trust his judgement on that.

Good point about insurance cover when not employed by the club, but players training with clubs they're not employed by is not unusual, I believe Gibson was a permanent feature on the Boro training ground while still employed by us, so it doesn't seem to be an issue.

His comments about the Dyche sacking are perfectly valid, it might be normal at Chelsea, but for a cash-strapped club like ours to sack a manager shortly after rewarding him with a long term contract does seem odd.

His general air of disgruntlement does also seem to chime with what I've heard, from more than one source, about the atmosphere amongst the staff still employed at Turf Moor.

[Vintage Claret]

"His general air of disgruntlement does also seem to chime with what I've heard, from more than one source, about the atmosphere amongst the staff still employed at Turf Moor."

This does seem to becoming more apparent, as Erik was not the first to voice his perceived treatment as being unusual, but he was offered a new contract.

It is possible that under the old ownership the club was run like a family concern, but when the new owners took over, they preferred an "American Style" business footing. From experience I have seen this happen with a company I worked for, and it does result in some disgruntlement amongst employees. The change takes a lot of getting used too, and that change is rarely for the benefit of the employees. Unfortunately, this is now the way ahead for most businesses and we should not forget that Burnley FC is a business concern.

As I said I liked Erik, but you sign a contract and at the end of that contract you owe nothing to the company, and they owe nothing to you that is how future business will be no doubt concluded.

[sinkov]

It is possible that under the old ownership the club was run like a family concern, but when the new owners took over, they preferred an "American Style" business footing. From experience I have seen this happen with a company I worked for, and it does result in some disgruntlement amongst employees. The change takes a lot of getting used too, and that change is rarely for the benefit of the employees. Unfortunately, this is now the way ahead for most businesses and we should not forget that Burnley FC is a business concern.

Yes, can't argue with that VC, as the saying goes, it is what it is, and we'll all, staff, players and fans, just have to live with it.

[kritichris]

When he turned down the offered contact and they didn't get back to him alarm bells should have been ringing. if he wanted to stay he should have made further approaches to the club to try and negotiate a deal.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

When he turned down the offered contact and they didn't get back to him alarm bells should have been ringing. if he wanted to stay he should have made further approaches to the club to try and negotiate a deal.

Bardsley had exactly the same whinge. I find it hard to believe their agents did nothing on their behalf.

Mr Pace seems to have a ruthless streak, how that pans out we will have to wait and see.

[sinkov]

Mr Pace seems to have a ruthless streak, how that pans out we will have to wait and see.

Regarding our American owners, there is one question that has been asked repeatedly, but as far as I'm aware, has not been answered satisfactorily yet, so I'll try again. Just WHY did this group of American businessmen acquire Burnley Football Club ? (I might have asked why did they 'buy' it, but as they haven't paid for it yet, I don't really consider them as having bought it yet.)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Regarding our American owners, there is one question that has been asked repeatedly, but as far as I'm aware, has not been answered satisfactorily yet, so I'll try again. Just WHY did this group of American businessmen acquire Burnley Football Club ? (I might have asked why did they 'buy' it, but as they haven't paid for it yet, I don't really consider them as having bought it yet.)

You know I worked in America with American businesspeople, to a man and woman they work to make a buck mon ami.

A one-word answer will suffice: PROFIT.

[sinkov]

You know I worked in America with American businesspeople, to a man and woman they work to make a buck mon ami.

A one-word answer will suffice: PROFIT.

And if American businessmen own an enterprise that isn't making a profit, what do they do then ? What becomes of said enterprise and it's employees ?