Koleosho - Amdouni- Taylor - Berge

[army88]

These are the 4 who played with what I think is the required level today.

I thought Koleosho showed the others how to go on today - he tried from minute one but we are devoid of support or a forward to support him.
Amdouni worked incredibly hard in the channels and coming short to try and get things going

Taylor just did Charlie solid and bombed on a bit to try and deliver ball

Special mention for Berger as I thought he improved a lot today , distribution decent and dropped to start moves off.

Obviously around me Trafford was to blame again for everything , couldn’t see it myself but hey ho used to it now.

[ClaretinBudapest]

These are the 4 who played with what I think is the required level today.

I thought Koleosho showed the others how to go on today - he tried from minute one but we are devoid of support or a forward to support him.
Amdouni worked incredibly hard in the channels and coming short to try and get things going

Taylor just did Charlie solid and bombed on a bit to try and deliver ball

Special mention for Berger as I thought he improved a lot today , distribution decent and dropped to start moves off.

Obviously around me Trafford was to blame again for everything , couldn’t see it myself but hey ho used to it now.

I agree Army.Trafford had just one wayward pass out.Not to blame for the goals.Palarse just exploited our weaknesses.It is there for all to see.I think they had two meaningful attacks in 90 mins and scored two goals.We had 17 attempts and failed to find the net.JBG and Jayrod are past it.They fluffed our best chances.You cannot do that in the PL and expect to get results.

[army88]

I agree Army.Trafford had just one wayward pass out.Not to blame for the goals.Palarse just exploited our weaknesses.It is there for all to see.I think they had two meaningful attacks in 90 mins and scored two goals.We had 17 attempts and failed to find the net.JBG and Jayrod are past it.They fluffed our best chances.You cannot do that in the PL and expect to get results.

Seems to me CIB we are between the devil and the deep blue sea

We had all the play and possession really but played most if not all in front of their back four, they never looked worried really - they just managed the game and let us do as we pleased as the final ball was either poor or we lost possession due to us lacking in confidence in the last third of the pitch.

Reality is and I know it’s been posted we don’t look like a team , just some players thrown together to see how we do.

Beyer apart from his blooper is a step up from Dakhil who I feel for really as he’s just been dropped in at centre back in the best league and told learn On the job quickly -I honestly think it could damage his career due to just being left to try and sort it.

I’m not sure what sort of magical charm JBG has over managers at Burnley but he continues to run the lucky charm and play on the right with no right foot - hence he checks back and narrows play and slows us down - to basically walking pace - it’s so easy for the opposition not only to read But also to defend. How Larson can be worse than him is beyond me.

Back to set pieces and throwings again CIB - what do we do all week - today we were victims of our own In adequacy’s - they were no different / better than us and yet after 95 minutes won 2-0.

Throwings are abysmal but corners slung high and deep just don’t work - neither do the ones that don’t beat the front defenders I’m surprised that when we can’t defend balls in our own box we expect us to win them in the Opposition’s.

Work to do I feel.

[Tap in MN]

I usually agree with most of your comments Army but not this time, Imo JBG had a decent game and played what few dangerous balls we had.
The second goal was irrelevant considering the state of the game and if it hadn't been for Beyer's slip we would have had a point from a much improved team performance. Amoudini makes run after run but never receives an early ball because we seem to have to make to two crossfield moves before the ball can be played forward. Hopefully Benson will be back soon. I believe Tom Finney was a natural left footer who played moslly on the right but he could go down the right side as I saw him do many times. JBG no longer has the pace unfortunately.

[army88]

I usually agree with most of your comments Army but not this time, Imo JBG had a decent game and played what few dangerous balls we had.
The second goal was irrelevant considering the state of the game and if it hadn't been for Beyer's slip we would have had a point from a much improved team performance. Amoudini makes run after run but never receives an early ball because we seem to have to make to two crossfield moves before the ball can be played forward. Hopefully Benson will be back soon. I believe Tom Finney was a natural left footer who played moslly on the right but he could go down the right side as I saw him do many times. JBG no longer has the pace unfortunately.

Tap

I’ve posted many times re JBG he does have talent but only uses it in limited spurts , he can be good for 10-15 mins and hide for the remainder

For balance koleosho on the other wing never stopped trying to go- inside - outside and helped defend on a few occasions where we we’re getting caught out , basically he offered amd tried all the game time he was on.

When I think about Johan I can’t say the same yes he doesn’t have pace but it what he does is slows our moves down and he’s been doing it forever - he’s a winger who makes it easy for the opposition as his movement takes him back to our full back narrowing play and stalling the impetus we have created . ( he’s predicable- slow and doesn’t offer enough to start ).

He’s been decent for us Tap in the past but shouldn’t be starting in the premiership for us now , we have wide men who can go past a man and my point was that JBG only helped us play in front of their back line ( they were comfortable all the game with us playing in front of them and not going behind ).

I feel bad because he’s not on his own but he frustrates me when he plays and is involved and then goes missing for large chunks of games.

Amdouni is a very intelligent footballer and VK know that hence why we bought him but he hadn’t worked out how as a team we can keep
Him at the oppositions last third with a centre forward who’s good enough to hold - keep the ball there long enough for him to be effective ( I posted before he does a lot of donkey work to help midfield at the minute )

If we’d bought Goykeres for example he is big and strong enough to hold the ball in the last third and occupy centre back - full backs to create that bit of time and space for Amdouni - obviously the reciprocation is he makes the runs as he is doing and creates space and openings for Goykeres .

As a team we are ponderous in our build up and final balls are poor in the main - we give possession back to teams cheaply but they are much more direct and quick
In transition when we do , we were the better team yesterday but me and my dad were just saying one mistake and they’d be in - the mistake came but when it did they filled our last third and we’re ruthless - from then on we were fighting an uphill battle.

VK needs to learn and quickly for me. - Ekdal is in training and played U21 yesterday with Obafemi and Churlinov as well which will help but truthfully for me we need a centre back seasoned older head a centre mid and a focal point striker in January and hopefully we won’t be cut too far a drift that we can’t survive.

What I do know is with 60 plus percentage possession in the Premiership and losing 0-2 at home can’t last - we need to get the players in January as we don’t have them at the minute.

[sinkov]

Many thanks to Army, Tap and CiB for their insightful comments, I didn't see the game so I have nothing to add in that respect. I might be getting boring on this, but everything I read about the deficiencies of our players and their performances inevitably leads me back to the source of the problems we're now facing in our attempt to stay in this league, and that is the Summer Transfer Window. There is no need to go into great detail, it was obvious to everyone what we needed and for the most part we didn't get it, but we got an awful lot of what we didn't need. It was a god-awful mess, an absolute shambles of a transfer window, culminating in the embarrassing Maatsen debacle on the last day, and it is the reason we are where we are now.

We can try to rectify it in January, Army thinks it can be done, but I'm not convinced, examples of teams salvaging their season in the January window are as rare as rocking horse sh1te, to me we look doomed, imo we're as good as down, our best hope is that Everton get docked a dozen points and we can get more points than two others, it's a forlorn hope but all that I can cling to.

[ClaretinBudapest]

Many thanks to Army, Tap and CiB for their insightful comments, I didn't see the game so I have nothing to add in that respect. I might be getting boring on this, but everything I read about the deficiencies of our players and their performances inevitably leads me back to the source of the problems we're now facing in our attempt to stay in this league, and that is the Summer Transfer Window. There is no need to go into great detail, it was obvious to everyone what we needed and for the most part we didn't get it, but we got an awful lot of what we didn't need. It was a god-awful mess, an absolute shambles of a transfer window, culminating in the embarrassing Maatsen debacle on the last day, and it is the reason we are where we are now.

We can try to rectify it in January, Army thinks it can be done, but I'm not convinced, examples of teams salvaging their season in the January window are as rare as rocking horse sh1te, to me we look doomed, imo we're as good as down, our best hope is that Everton get docked a dozen points and we can get more points than two others, it's a forlorn hope but all that I can cling to.

Bang on as usual Sinkov.Thing is if we splurge another wad of dosh in January and still go down which like you, I think we will,then we will be in serious trouble financially(if we are not already) and I am not entirely sure this team would get us back out of the Championship as they seem altogether too lightweight whether challenging for the ball or when defending set pieces.It is turning into a major debacle.Mission part 2 required.

[Tap in MN]

Many thanks to Army, Tap and CiB for their insightful comments, I didn't see the game so I have nothing to add in that respect. I might be getting boring on this, but everything I read about the deficiencies of our players and their performances inevitably leads me back to the source of the problems we're now facing in our attempt to stay in this league, and that is the Summer Transfer Window. There is no need to go into great detail, it was obvious to everyone what we needed and for the most part we didn't get it, but we got an awful lot of what we didn't need. It was a god-awful mess, an absolute shambles of a transfer window, culminating in the embarrassing Maatsen debacle on the last day, and it is the reason we are where we are now.

We can try to rectify it in January, Army thinks it can be done, but I'm not convinced, examples of teams salvaging their season in the January window are as rare as rocking horse sh1te, to me we look doomed, imo we're as good as down, our best hope is that Everton get docked a dozen points and we can get more points than two others, it's a forlorn hope but all that I can cling to.

Spot on Sinkov. "Rocking horse ****e" that's a new one, I thought I knew most of the local sayings but obviously not. Welcome back even though I sometimes think you're bonkers. Great with the numbers though.

[sinkov]

Welcome back even though I sometimes think you're bonkers.p.

Only sometimes ?

[Turf_Forever]

Ekdal would come straight back in for me. Just a tad more experience there.

Koleosho & Amdouni give me some hope. We need Foster back.

Overall it worries me every time the opposition get in our half...