Cost of living crisis, my ar5e!

[WTF11]

Reciprocal arrangements may be possible, but so is reducing the price of away tickets, and yet we have our new owners, part of one of the richest franchises in the NFL, happy to charge away fans much higher ticket prices than those who want to support their teams playing at away matches in the Premiership.

Maybe they might like to think about making it clear they support Whites away supporters, by ensuring a lower price paid for said supporters, irrespective of what other clubs do, but that wouldn't be maximising profit, wouldn't it?

DISGUSTING.

BTW, at an average of 3k away supporters, and assuming the club could expect about £25/ticket without losing too much, that would mean a reduction in matchday revenue of around £50k (and only on away match weekends!), less than we pay the least capable 1st team squad member per week. Again, DISGUSTING.

[Monaco_Totty]

Reciprocal deals available.
Leeds United offer reciprocal away ticket deals - Football Supporters' Association
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/leeds-uni...-ticket-deals/

I hope Leicester City offer us decent segregation when our away allocation arrives after watching this below.

Two away Stoke fans getting wound up at Leicester last weekend by ? 😳

https://x.com/nocontextfooty/status/...611274401?s=20

[Sniffer999]

Reciprocal arrangements may be possible, but so is reducing the price of away tickets, and yet we have our new owners, part of one of the richest franchises in the NFL, happy to charge away fans much higher ticket prices than those who want to support their teams playing at away matches in the Premiership.

Maybe they might like to think about making it clear they support Whites away supporters, by ensuring a lower price paid for said supporters, irrespective of what other clubs do, but that wouldn't be maximising profit, wouldn't it?

DISGUSTING.

BTW, at an average of 3k away supporters, and assuming the club could expect about £25/ticket without losing too much, that would mean a reduction in matchday revenue of around £50k (and only on away match weekends!), less than we pay the least capable 1st team squad member per week. Again, DISGUSTING.

Don't think anyone can have a different opinion on that. Absolutely ludicrous in every way.

[WTF11]

Reciprocal deals available.
Leeds United offer reciprocal away ticket deals - Football Supporters' Association
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/leeds-uni...-ticket-deals/

I hope Leicester City offer us decent segregation when our away allocation arrives after watching this below.

Two away Stoke fans getting wound up at Leicester last weekend by ? ��

https://x.com/nocontextfooty/status/...611274401?s=20

Not really interested in "reciprocation". That builds a dependency into something that the club could, and IMHO should, take into its own hands, to the benefit of (particularly) the travelling fans.

I've posted before (quite a lot!) regarding the exorbitant ticket prices that LUFC have charged fans, home and away, over many years, both as a Championship and Premier League club. The 10% across the board rise in prices shows the scant regard that our new owners pay to the fans and the support they have given in good times and bad.

Insofar as home match ticket prices go, we have the following;

Tier Stand Adult

1 East Central Lower, East Stand Upper and West Stand £52.00
2 East Stand Upper Wings £45.00
3 North and South Stands £45.00
4 Family Stand £39.00

To put that into context, only five clubs in the Premier League have average ticket prices that start at a higher price than the £39 adult in the Family stand at ER

Then we come to away matches. The club decided, in July, to ditch the cap previously applied when we were in the PL;

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/l...-hike-27328597

The effect being to leave away fans at the mercy of whatever price the home club chooses to charge, if some reciprocation deal isn't worked out, and given the costs to away fans at ER, we know what that will lead to!

PS. If Leeds were minded to help Leeds travelling fans, and simplify matters at the same time, they could offer a league-wide deal to away supporters visiting ER, using the Cardiff example as a template, but they won't.

Factor in the other costs (travel, hotel (dependent on distance, health conditions of supporters etc), and the loyal support given to LUFC by fans who are regularly applauded for their spirit, good behaviour (I know, hasn't always been that way!) etc, comes at a huge price that I suspect many are finding hard to justify.

The club could, and should make it easier for travelling fans (at least!), but they won't, not in my lifetime anyway, for shame.

[Monaco_Totty]

For topic balance.

Looking at the English non-league 5th level 'National League' prices you'll find some folks thinking it's not so bad to see Championship football.

Match Tickets at York City Football Club at £22 (home fans) & £18 for (away fans) a seat, my mates tell me !

Coincidently, Eastleigh (near you) are playing York City next week with tickets costing travelling York fans £18 a seat and a round journey of 500 miles on top !
https://yorkcityfootballclub.co.uk/match-tickets

So throughout the FA leagues structure pricing & discounting it certainly aint just a 'Leeds thing'.

As my mother often stated - voice your concern direct to the club or contact the supporters trust LUST in Leeds to actively put your disgust across or indeed join the FSA to get your message across to the Football Regulator regarding footballs pricing.

[spaldy]

Unlike Government, that takes whatever amount of your paycheck they feel like… And they do.

Supporters have a choice. If you don’t like the product you don’t buy it. You’ll recall that under some previous owners we had balanced books, a lower ticket price and a poor squad on the pitch.

It costs money to field a good squad. You also make mistakes. Even the great teams make mistakes. Lots of them. They just have deeper pockets.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Unlike Government, that takes whatever amount of your paycheck they feel like… And they do.

Supporters have a choice. If you don’t like the product you don’t buy it. You’ll recall that under some previous owners we had balanced books, a lower ticket price and a poor squad on the pitch.

It costs money to field a good squad. You also make mistakes. Even the great teams make mistakes. Lots of them. They just have deeper pockets.

Exactly - it also seems that the attraction of some UK clubs to US owners is that they perceive the revenue is not being maximised and had potential to grow.

Many won’t like it but if fans want better facilities and better players ……

Supply and demand at work too.

[Monaco_Totty]

WTF - Not taking any side but most travelling Leeds support nowadays do not live in Leeds - so "every match" is an away game regarding total costs of getting to a game.

I know my Dads expenses coming to games from France aint the norm but quite a few do it home & away from all over the UK as the 'product' (Spaldy talk) is still appealing despite your sometime alternative opinions of various matters Leeds Utd.

I do get your drift WTF - but most of my friends have been following Leeds as adults since our 2004 demise years, buying ST's back then & still going now but 75% of them dont now live in Yorkshire, 'tho regularly still meet up at games.
Whereas my parents match going pals mostly still live in or around Leeds - same comadre in both camps 'helping- costs' of mates with accomodation, shared-travel etc but everyone's in the same boat finding finance for ones interests wherever they live.

Leeds Rhinos this season want £24 off away fans to stand on the terrace or £32 to sit in the North Stand. https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2023/...on%20the%20day.

Cinema tickets in York are £12 each or £32 for a family ticket (2 adults x 2 children) at the moment i'm told.

French Ligue 1 Nantes, near to me want £46 for a matchday ticket this season with replica shirts selling for £90 !

This weekend 250 York City fans are taking buses from York to Eastleigh costing £50 a seat each, even before food & beverage for the 500 mile trip. 👏

So 'entertainment' dont come cheap.

[WTF11]

WTF - Not taking any side but most travelling Leeds support nowadays do not live in Leeds - so "every match" is an away game regarding total costs of getting to a game.

I know my Dads expenses coming to games from France aint the norm but quite a few do it home & away from all over the UK as the 'product' (Spaldy talk) is still appealing despite your sometime alternative opinions of various matters Leeds Utd.

I do get your drift WTF - but most of my friends have been following Leeds as adults since our 2004 demise years, buying ST's back then & still going now but 75% of them dont now live in Yorkshire, 'tho regularly still meet up at games.
Whereas my parents match going pals mostly still live in or around Leeds - same comadre in both camps 'helping- costs' of mates with accomodation, shared-travel etc but everyone's in the same boat finding finance for ones interests wherever they live.

Leeds Rhinos this season want £24 off away fans to stand on the terrace or £32 to sit in the North Stand. https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2023/...on%20the%20day.

Cinema tickets in York are £12 each or £32 for a family ticket (2 adults x 2 children) at the moment i'm told.

French Ligue 1 Nantes, near to me want £46 for a matchday ticket this season with replica shirts selling for £90 !

This weekend 250 York City fans are taking buses from York to Eastleigh costing £50 a seat each, even before food & beverage for the 500 mile trip. ��

So 'entertainment' dont come cheap.

Not much to disagree with there MT, and as far as the support given to each other by travelling fans (and by no means is that limited to LUFC supporters), it's of long-standing and I'm sure greatly appreciated. I used to be in that cohort of supporters who went all over, in good times and bad, and whilst it was sometime a bit of a stretch to find the necessary funds, the costs (or everything, not just tickets), were less of a bite out of wages/salaries than is often the case now. Hence why I said that the club, rather than its supporters, can and should make things easier, especially for those who travel the length and breadth of the country (and often beyond) to support the team.

Not wanting to be contentious (moi?) but your point regarding York supporters gives the lie to you last comment regarding the cost of "entertainment". It's about much more than that (and no, I don't go along with the Bill Shankly daftness, but football gets in the blood like no other), and I just wish that the owners (again, not just LUFC but that's the club I support so its behavious is especially significant to me), would show that same passion and devotion, or at the very least reflect their appreciation of it in some material fashion, showing that they aren't entirely in that group that Oscar Wilde was referring to when he penned the quotation of a cynic as someone who “knows the price of everything and the value of nothing”. I'm not holding my breath.

[spaldy]

I see WTF"s side of the argument here.

However, we've tasted the prem as well as some great years leading up to the prem. I think I can speak for a lot of the Leeds supporters is that we want more than a lot of other teams. The only way to do that is to have deep pockets and big budgets which means that everything is more expensive than when we were used to LG 1 budgets. Since 2004 the costs to own a prem level club has skyrocketed.

Several years back I was fleet manager for one of the companies I worked for. When a exec level car came back to fleet after a firing or resignation I"d turn it back to the leasing company, unless another exec as waiting for one. Once someone gets a Caddilac, Lincoln or any other top of the line car you can't put them back into a Ford Focus or Chevy Spark ( Puma or Corsa would be the UK equivalant). No matter how much someone says they'll take the Cadillac and gladly trade it out when the time comes and go back to their Puma or Corsa they aren't going to do it happily and you'll end up with a ticked off employee and likely to leave. Football clubs are kind of the same analogy.