Ipswich up to 75 million - rising

[army88]

What’s the views as we were slated by many last season saying 90 plus million was garbage and on poor players - Ipswich are up to 75 already with weeks to go.

A fine balance I think as what they’ve bought is literally like us - unproven at Premiership level - will they survive or capitulate like we did. ?

Imo it highlights the gap is wide and widening by the season - where that leaves us I don’t know !

[Turf_Forever]

75M still catches everyone's attention like it's a lot of money, but for the EPL in reality it isn't any more.

We did a large number of younger £10-15m range players. They're doing something similar.

They'll be set up to cut their cloth if they are relegated, but i agree i can only see the three promoted teams struggling again.

[ballcock]

Know idea who Ipswich have signed bar Muric, but for their sake I hope they have been more pragmatic than we were.

I thought we might have learned from last seasons mistakes, but it looks like we are at it again, by taking a gamble on the French striker, Sambo and the Brazilian defender

Ipswich need to sign 3 or 4 experienced pros who have made there mark in the Premier league on frees

[army88]

Know idea who Ipswich have signed bar Muric, but for their sake I hope they have been more pragmatic than we were.

I thought we might have learned from last seasons mistakes, but it looks like we are at it again, by taking a gamble on the French striker, Sambo and the Brazilian defender

Ipswich need to sign 3 or 4 experienced pros who have made there mark in the Premier league on frees

Problem is ballcock a player like that at the right age costs 30-35million quid and there endeth the lesson- hence why we didn’t buy them either.

As I’ve said before many times the gap continues to widen.

[Swissclaret]

The gap does get wider, I agree.

The financial aspects of the pyramid are a mess. So many transfer fees go to foreign clubs such that, from Championship downwards, clubs have little, if any, hope of big money boosts that enable them to climb up the ladder and try to narrow the gap. They are consigned to shopping in the basement unless they can find deep pockets to back them.

Salford City progressed from non-league to league but even the Neville bros and Scholes have their financial limits, the same will be true of Wrexham.

[wanderlust]

The gap does get wider, I agree.

The financial aspects of the pyramid are a mess. So many transfer fees go to foreign clubs such that, from Championship downwards, clubs have little, if any, hope of big money boosts that enable them to climb up the ladder and try to narrow the gap. They are consigned to shopping in the basement unless they can find deep pockets to back them.

Salford City progressed from non-league to league but even the Neville bros and Scholes have their financial limits, the same will be true of Wrexham.

Totally agree.
I think BWFC have a transfer budget of around 1.5 m if we can offload some deadwood in this window. Birmingham have 20m and newly promoted Wrexham are playing their preseason in America with games against Chelsea and Vancouver White Caps so gawd knows what they'll have to spend. The financial inequity spreads down the leagues and now clubs are spending big to get to the next level.

[ballcock]

Problem is ballcock a player like that at the right age costs 30-35million quid and there endeth the lesson- hence why we didn’t buy them either.

As I’ve said before many times the gap continues to widen.

You still don't have to spend large fees, the problem is the wages.

Luton signed Bartley. We had players like Pieters and Bardsley all on frees, they did a great job.
Top pros and would have run through walls.

I can't see any of our present lot running through walls, bar O'Shea. Even Brownhill looked like he wasn't interested earlier in the year

[sinkov]

The gap does get wider, I agree.

The financial aspects of the pyramid are a mess. So many transfer fees go to foreign clubs such that, from Championship downwards, clubs have little, if any, hope of big money boosts that enable them to climb up the ladder and try to narrow the gap. They are consigned to shopping in the basement unless they can find deep pockets to back them.

Salford City progressed from non-league to league but even the Neville bros and Scholes have their financial limits, the same will be true of Wrexham.

Just a bit lower down the Pyramid, Step 8, Northern Premier League, D1 West, this is how Clitheroe's wage bill has risen over the last ten years.

2014, £30,965
2015, £39,852
2016, £47,847
2017, £45,855
2018, £51,400
2019, £54,121
2020, £51,715
2021, £48,336
2022, £116,139
2023, £162,995
2024, £155,745

Despite the recent increases, Clitheroe have failed to win promotion, and the chairman says they are by no means the biggest spenders in this Division.

[army88]

You still don't have to spend large fees, the problem is the wages.

Luton signed Bartley. We had players like Pieters and Bardsley all on frees, they did a great job.
Top pros and would have run through walls.

I can't see any of our present lot running through walls, bar O'Shea. Even Brownhill looked like he wasn't interested earlier in the year

I’m with it ballcock but let’s remember several years ago we paid 12 million for Jeff hendrick and around me they still slagged him off even though he would have done as you say run through walls for the cause.

The point is Ballcock as I alluded to before the goals have moved - everyone wants a player like that and they are not bargains or cheap anymore.

Feel free to make suggestions you think we could maybe get on free s that fit that bill - football has changed unfortunately and it’s not like me and you know it over the last 40/50 years.

Football is a young man’s game and the ones you refer to don’t need to play on any more as financially they’re secure or because the Premiership has moved on much more than most ( including yourself accept ) would accept they simply can’t hack it at the top level.

Alot of our problems last year were bedding in virtually a new team which didn’t help with a lot of youth in it and the elder statesmen simply not good enough to compete at that level anymore - JBG - Rodriguez - Cork etc.

In the Dyche early Era running was maybe enough though not particularly attractive nowadays it’s simply isn’t enough to compete at the highest levels.

[Swissclaret]

Just a bit lower down the Pyramid, Step 8, Northern Premier League, D1 West, this is how Clitheroe's wage bill has risen over the last ten years.

2014, £30,965
2015, £39,852
2016, £47,847
2017, £45,855
2018, £51,400
2019, £54,121
2020, £51,715
2021, £48,336
2022, £116,139
2023, £162,995
2024, £155,745

Despite the recent increases, Clitheroe have failed to win promotion, and the chairman says they are by no means the biggest spenders in this Division.

That is incredible, sinkov. How do they balance the books?