Parkers record-11 goals in 18 games.

[ClaretinBudapest]

Since the fire sale we have scored 11 goals from open play in 18 games.We scored nine in our first two games before the fire sale.The rest were 3 penalties and an own goal.Of those 18 goals I can remember only one that was the result of a great attacking move.13% conversion rate and no goals from set pieces.
Enough said-forget promotion.This is down to the board and Parker.In the unlikely event that we end up in the play offs and get promoted which I very much doubt then it will be another complete change of the playing squad because this lot are nowhere near PL level and neither is the manager.
For me it will be Leeds and Sheffield United for automatic promotion and Sunderland via the play offs.Sorry but the reality is we are just not good enough.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Selling Muric, Zaroury, O'Shea, Berge, Odobert, Al Dakhil, & co right from under Parker's nose was never going to help any hopes of an immediate return to the EPL.

Just to be competing at the top end of the Championship seems pretty impressive to me.

A left back and a centre forward are all we need to really challenge for a top two place, I'm still hopeful.

[army88]

Since the fire sale we have scored 11 goals from open play in 18 games.We scored nine in our first two games before the fire sale.The rest were 3 penalties and an own goal.Of those 18 goals I can remember only one that was the result of a great attacking move.13% conversion rate and no goals from set pieces.
Enough said-forget promotion.This is down to the board and Parker.In the unlikely event that we end up in the play offs and get promoted which I very much doubt then it will be another complete change of the playing squad because this lot are nowhere near PL level and neither is the manager.
For me it will be Leeds and Sheffield United for automatic promotion and Sunderland via the play offs.Sorry but the reality is we are just not good enough.

CIB

The flip side is conceded 7 in 20 games one extreme to another.

I seem to remember this is how Dyche started really sured the defence and then built from there

Maybe there?s hope yet.

[ClaretinBudapest]

Selling Muric, Zaroury, O'Shea, Berge, Odobert, Al Dakhil, & co right from under Parker's nose was never going to help any hopes of an immediate return to the EPL.

Just to be competing at the top end of the Championship seems pretty impressive to me.

A left back and a centre forward are all we need to really challenge for a top two place, I'm still hopeful.

Nothing has really changed since September BT.Cardy has been insisting that they are working non-stop on improving the attacking prowess of the team.It is not working.When you have to bring on JayRod in the hope of getting a goal it stinks of desperation.
We have one stand out performer and even he is now injured-CJ Egan Riley.The rest of the team are bang average Championship players.

[ClaretinBudapest]

CIB

The flip side is conceded 7 in 20 games one extreme to another.

I seem to remember this is how Dyche started really sured the defence and then built from there

Maybe there?s hope yet.

I admire your optimism Army but our defence will not get us promoted and even if it did we would go through the same personnel changes as the last time we were promoted because this team would get destroyed in the PL including the defence.
Weeds,the Blades and even Sunderland are far better equippped to put up a fight in the PL.Interestingly the Blades were supposed to be in all sorts of trouble off the pitch yet they hardly sold anybody and getting Wilder back was a wise move in my opinion.Cardy was our second or third choice and it shows.

[outwoodclaret]

The situation has not changed markedly since the beginning of October. The emergence of CJ Egan-Riley has been a welcome bonus but has not altered the deficiencies in attack. Foster has been more absent than present and no-one who has been given an opportunity in attack has looked capable of being a regular goal scorer. It will be down to what occurs in the window. I am sure the Board and Scott Parker know that all too well. As the saying goes even a blind man on a galloping horse can see where the problem is. Get the right attacking players in during the January window and we will be a force. I am sure targets have been identified and if so whether they would contemplate a spell at Turf Moor which would benefit us, the player and the club agreeing to the move.

[lancaster100]

[QUOTE=outwoodclaret;40616788]The situation has not changed markedly since the beginning of October. The emergence of CJ Egan-Riley has been a welcome bonus but has not altered the deficiencies in attack. Foster has been more absent than present and no-one who has been given an opportunity in attack has looked capable of being a regular goal scorer. It will be down to what occurs in the window. I am sure the Board and Scott Parker know that all too well. As the saying goes even a blind man on a galloping horse can see where the problem is. Get the right attacking players in during the January window and we will be a force. I am sure targets have been identified and if so whether they would contemplate a spell at Turf Moor which would benefit us, the player and the club agreeing to the move.

I have been studying the lack of goals and have concluded it is not our strikers who do not score enough. In fact they are not missing chances or sitters so no matter who is included as a striker will never score goals because our so called creators are not creating and thereby it is the so called creators who are not doing their job. Both wide men cannot cross a ball at all and when we have the opportunity to put the ball in the box the choice is always not to do so and it becomes side to side or back to our defense. It is truly frustrating and every game becomes negative. Even when we get a corner it is often that the ball does not beat the first man it is pathetic. Last night Anthony at a corner simply passed the ball along the floor to Derby?s first man. From the start the collective attitude was we can win this game anytime we want. There was no will to win everything was sloppy. If I was a solitary observer It would not be a to difficult to conclude that the team had backed us at the bookies to draw nil-nil. The standard of our football is dull and boring and it will only take an odd poor run of results to hear the shouts of Parker Out. We complained about Dyche but this team is worse by some margin and not a fine margin. Collectively the whole team should pack up and go home. The sport should be to provide some level of entertainment.

[ballcock]

People have got to understand that we are a young team in age and time. Young players can perform inconsistently which as been the case with Koleosho and Anthony, who was poor yesterday.

Parker literally had 1 week last August to throw this team together and knock it into a side, that is now competing at the top end of the championship. All this talk from some of sacking Parker is just plain ridiculous when in my opinion he is doing a sterling job.

All great sides are built from the back as Dyche proved when he took over from Howe who was and still is clueless, at setting up his team to defend

I would rather us be sat in the top 3 playing boring football than mid table like we were under Howe, banging out high scoring draws and getting beat by the odd goal in 4.

[army88]

[QUOTE=lancaster100;40616831]

The situation has not changed markedly since the beginning of October. The emergence of CJ Egan-Riley has been a welcome bonus but has not altered the deficiencies in attack. Foster has been more absent than present and no-one who has been given an opportunity in attack has looked capable of being a regular goal scorer. It will be down to what occurs in the window. I am sure the Board and Scott Parker know that all too well. As the saying goes even a blind man on a galloping horse can see where the problem is. Get the right attacking players in during the January window and we will be a force. I am sure targets have been identified and if so whether they would contemplate a spell at Turf Moor which would benefit us, the player and the club agreeing to the move.

I have been studying the lack of goals and have concluded it is not our strikers who do not score enough. In fact they are not missing chances or sitters so no matter who is included as a striker will never score goals because our so called creators are not creating and thereby it is the so called creators who are not doing their job. Both wide men cannot cross a ball at all and when we have the opportunity to put the ball in the box the choice is always not to do so and it becomes side to side or back to our defense. It is truly frustrating and every game becomes negative. Even when we get a corner it is often that the ball does not beat the first man it is pathetic. Last night Anthony at a corner simply passed the ball along the floor to Derby?s first man. From the start the collective attitude was we can win this game anytime we want. There was no will to win everything was sloppy. If I was a solitary observer It would not be a to difficult to conclude that the team had backed us at the bookies to draw nil-nil. The standard of our football is dull and boring and it will only take an odd poor run of results to hear the shouts of Parker Out. We complained about Dyche but this team is worse by some margin and not a fine margin. Collectively the whole team should pack up and go home. The sport should be to provide some level of entertainment.

Some of this is true Lancaster but I don’t think it’s they can’t do it , the wide men make bad decisions but there is no offer to force the pass / cross by this I mean in the final third our forward / front offer don’t make the runs and pull players into uncomfortable positions.

He’s hated in here but Foster does do this unselfishly ( maybe too much so ) he runs the spaces and offers but then we get caught with no one up to support him.

If I was Parker I’d be practicing getting our players making runs in behind from the forwards and the wide men to run without the ball - the midfield need to feed balls into the channels for our quick wide men to get onto ( not every ball has to start at koleosho / Anthony’s feet where they are marked by 2/3 men ).

It’s a simple game was when I played it anyway quick wide men told don’t always come short to receive stretch the game and make the full backs- centre backs worry about us and how to stop us and our movement.

We play all our football in front of teams because transition is laboured ( the midfield slows us down ) we retain the ball for long periods 60/70% possession but the opposition are comfortable watching us go side to side with no penetration.

Now I’ve seen Anthony and Koleosho - Ageyi and others with plenty of fleet of foot but we don’t make the ball work for us and utilise their pace.

Parker imo anyway needs a Foster type player to do the selfless job and bring Fleming for example into play at the right end of the pitch and in areas when he’s dangerous- not running aimlessly for balls he won’t get.

Just my. Logic and thoughts and I’m sure Mr Parker knows can see this - my thing is he isn’t trying to affect it at the minute - however we don’t lose many boring as it is to watch - maybe with an odd addition and tactic change we’ll be a force soon enough.

[Supersub6]

Of course it's boring. Home fans have only seen 16 goals at the Turf in 10 matches, whereas last season we had seen 34 goals in 10 matches.