Elon Musk

[baggieal]

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Musk attacks 'evil' Starmer as onslaught continues
Elon Musk has continued his attacks on Sir Keir Starmer overnight, branding the prime minister "evil".
The billionaire owner of X also nicknamed the PM "Squirmy Starmer", and suggested he will be gone from his post "soon", like Canadian PM Justin Trudeau.
The ongoing attacks from Mr Musk come after the PM accused people of "spreading lies" about grooming gangs and said they are not interested in victims.

Personally, I don?t have a problem with these verbal attacks from Musk. Did the Labour Government not recently meddle in the USA election? Why do so many outside of the USA have an opinion on Trump when clearly the majority of Americans love him? Why did we get involved in the Floyd incident even to the point of our sportspeople taking the knee?

Love them or hate them - Trump/Musk will tackle illegal immigration - restore much needed law and disorder in the USA and bring down taxes. Is that not what the majority of the Americans wanted hence why they voted Trump? Is this not what many in the U.K. would like rather than wokeness?

Of course the disgusting grooming cases should be reopened and those responsible or those who turned a blind eye should be left to rot behind bars. I am shocked why Starmer does not want to reopen the cases immediately regardless of which political department/individuals were to blame.

Starmer is clearly out of his depth and whilst I don?t have an opinion on Musk apart from him being one of the world?s greatest in business - some of his comments about Starmer and Co can only be a good thing. Meddling? No more than the little old UK has done with the US. It certainly would not be in the UK?s interest for any upstart MP to upset Trump or Musk - the reality is the U.K. need the USA far more than they need us.

[kettering_baggie]

The worry I have with Trump/Musk partnership is that they can be somewhat fickle, great mates today, fierce critics tomorrow. Starmer has, in my opinion, been very stupid, irresponsible maybe, in matters of the UK/USA relationship. The Chagos Islands fiasco is a case in point; apart from being an extremely stupid thing to do, taking such a decision was obviously going to upset the Americans, especially Trump, considering their comments about European nations making appropriate contributions to the defence of the West. I do think, though, that Musk’s comments were a tad over the top, in particular those directed at Jess Phillips, who I think is an extremely good constituency MP and as an honest a person as you will find in Parliament. Overall, though, the Labour government is just not up to the job, too mired in political dogma to take steps that are needed; this applies especially to Starmer himself, Rachel Reeves, the hapless David Lammy and most of all to the complete idiot, Ed Milliband. Unfortunately, with the size of the parliamentary majority, we are stuck with these fools until 2029, one can only dread the state of the country and our relationship with the USA come the next election.

[albion68]

The worry I have with Trump/Musk partnership is that they can be somewhat fickle, great mates today, fierce critics tomorrow. Starmer has, in my opinion, been very stupid, irresponsible maybe, in matters of the UK/USA relationship. The Chagos Islands fiasco is a case in point; apart from being an extremely stupid thing to do, taking such a decision was obviously going to upset the Americans, especially Trump, considering their comments about European nations making appropriate contributions to the defence of the West. I do think, though, that Musk’s comments were a tad over the top, in particular those directed at Jess Phillips, who I think is an extremely good constituency MP and as an honest a person as you will find in Parliament. Overall, though, the Labour government is just not up to the job, too mired in political dogma to take steps that are needed; this applies especially to Starmer himself, Rachel Reeves, the hapless David Lammy and most of all to the complete idiot, Ed Milliband. Unfortunately, with the size of the parliamentary majority, we are stuck with these fools until 2029, one can only dread the state of the country and our relationship with the USA come the next election.

this Labour Parties cabinet are incompetent from top to bottom..and I’m a lifetime
labour voter..(was)

[Dubbag]

Musk reminds me of the Nazi Gobbles....not in appearance but in his behaviour and the shyte that flows from his mouth every time he opens it.
The sooner he fcuks off to Mars the better for humanity.

[On Balance]

Musk reminds me of the Nazi Gobbles....not in appearance but in his behaviour and the shyte that flows from his mouth every time he opens it.
The sooner he fcuks off to Mars the better for humanity.

Could not have put it better myself Dubbag.

And if Musk would be so kind as to take lTrump the gob” with him all the better.

The last thing the world needs right now is a loose cannoned, loud mouthed, gun loving idiot yank like Trump. Europe is already expecting the worst.

[baggieal]

Could not have put it better myself Dubbag.

And if Musk would be so kind as to take lTrump the gob” with him all the better.

The last thing the world needs right now is a loose cannoned, loud mouthed, gun loving idiot yank like Trump. Europe is already expecting the worst.

I don?t suppose the majority of the US who love Trump care about Europe or the opinions of the U.K. Trump was voted in to deport illegals, restore law and order and bring down taxes.

Don?t like Trump personally but up to the Americans who leads their country. We should be more concerned with our own broken country and everything being woke. You may be right with Trump being an idiot but many would use stronger words for the Tool Makers Son 😂

You have strong views on Ukraine OB - NATO have been divided and still are plus many would say Biden has been inconsistent and soft. What do you propose to stop this war? How could Europe bring peace without the US who provide most of the support? Do you feel Trump will make the situation worse where clearly the Russians are gaining territory?

[kettering_baggie]

Trump is unpredictable, that’s probably why many around the World aren’t keen on him. Whatever you think of him, though, The UK (and Europe) need the US for our security, so it seems to be particularly stupid to get on the wrong side of him. Starmer, Lammy, Mandleson & Co have been doing just that for years now. At the moment, Musk and Trump seem to be besties, so if you pi$$ off one of them, the other will be on your back, too. Trump and Musk are not going to do Starmer’s bidding, so the Tool (makers son) needs to get his head around that and act in his country’s interests, not blindly follow Labour Party dogma.

[On Balance]

I don?t suppose the majority of the US who love Trump care about Europe or the opinions of the U.K. Trump was voted in to deport illegals, restore law and order and bring down taxes.

Don?t like Trump personally but up to the Americans who leads their country. We should be more concerned with our own broken country and everything being woke. You may be right with Trump being an idiot but many would use stronger words for the Tool Makers Son ��

You have strong views on Ukraine OB - NATO have been divided and still are plus many would say Biden has been inconsistent and soft. What do you propose to stop this war? How could Europe bring peace without the US who provide most of the support? Do you feel Trump will make the situation worse where clearly the Russians are gaining territory?

Al, apologies as this may take some reading.

I will deal with each question, as I see it, in the order you put them. I know little about US politics to be fair. However, my point with Trump is, he says much about how he is going to resolve things but provides in detail on how he will achieve these objectives.

Unless the US wish to stand alone, I believe the continent of Europe is not as expendable as one might think. If the US walks away from Europe it will leave a door wide open for the power hungry aggressive nations to make a move on the European continent. If that did happen, perhaps not likely in yours or perhaps my lifetime, that would weaken the US greatly. United we stand divided we would fall.

It is a matter of the good standing up together against the dictator led powers.

Is the UK worse off than other European countries or the US, in my view that is hard to say. There are many down and out areas in Europe and the US. There are many thugs and evil lurking in every corner of the world. There is poor and homeless everywhere. Trump will not be able to clear these issues up in the US, no easier than we could over here or they can in any other country.

Trump says he will stop immigration, as I pointed out in para 1, he has not said how he will do this. So we will have to wait and see how he does it and how successful he is. He has always been a man of bluster and bull hooks.

My views on Ukraine were simple and nowhere near as strong as yours I would suggest. Trump says he will end the war straight away! Has he said how he intends to do this?

I suspect Trump will say that Ukraine must cede what Russia has unlawfully gained and that is it. Imagine Canada grabbing large swathes of the US, would Trump sit down and leave it be, if Ukraine as piece maker, said that is how you finish a war.

Imagine if France invaded the UK and took the whole of the south east of England and were making gains. Would we, could we accept leaving as it stood to stop the fighting. Not many Brits would leave it at that I am sure.

The problem is, where would Russia stop. If they can make war to grab land they would continent to do so.

You say that Biden has been inconsistent and soft. I would say he has been, like the West as a whole, slow to react perhaps wary of Putins talk. Putin, another like Trump, is full of bluster and bull hooks.

Where does all this leave us. Well I suggest very much weakened as we will have bowed down to the bully, the bully that you have so many times said we should stand up to. We need to be united against the bullies, lest we will be in peril for years to come. That is both Europe and the US.

You ask, will Trump make the situation in Ukraine worse. In the long term absolutely. The conditions are likely already written by the aggressor. Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO and Ukraine must cede roughly one third of its country. If that condition is agreed then where will the aggressor stop? He will see how weak the West is. He will smell the fear and let us make no mistake, he will take advantage of that like any bully would.

[Leicesterbaggie]

You are perfectly correct OB, the only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them. At a much lower level I have had to deal with it as a teacher. Stand up to a bully and they melt into the background because basically, they are the cowards!

[baggieal]

Al, apologies as this may take some reading.

I will deal with each question, as I see it, in the order you put them. I know little about US politics to be fair. However, my point with Trump is, he says much about how he is going to resolve things but provides in detail on how he will achieve these objectives.

Unless the US wish to stand alone, I believe the continent of Europe is not as expendable as one might think. If the US walks away from Europe it will leave a door wide open for the power hungry aggressive nations to make a move on the European continent. If that did happen, perhaps not likely in yours or perhaps my lifetime, that would weaken the US greatly. United we stand divided we would fall.

It is a matter of the good standing up together against the dictator led powers.

Is the UK worse off than other European countries or the US, in my view that is hard to say. There are many down and out areas in Europe and the US. There are many thugs and evil lurking in every corner of the world. There is poor and homeless everywhere. Trump will not be able to clear these issues up in the US, no easier than we could over here or they can in any other country.

Trump says he will stop immigration, as I pointed out in para 1, he has not said how he will do this. So we will have to wait and see how he does it and how successful he is. He has always been a man of bluster and bull hooks.

My views on Ukraine were simple and nowhere near as strong as yours I would suggest. Trump says he will end the war straight away! Has he said how he intends to do this?

I suspect Trump will say that Ukraine must cede what Russia has unlawfully gained and that is it. Imagine Canada grabbing large swathes of the US, would Trump sit down and leave it be, if Ukraine as piece maker, said that is how you finish a war.

Imagine if France invaded the UK and took the whole of the south east of England and were making gains. Would we, could we accept leaving as it stood to stop the fighting. Not many Brits would leave it at that I am sure.

The problem is, where would Russia stop. If they can make war to grab land they would continent to do so.

You say that Biden has been inconsistent and soft. I would say he has been, like the West as a whole, slow to react perhaps wary of Putins talk. Putin, another like Trump, is full of bluster and bull hooks.

Where does all this leave us. Well I suggest very much weakened as we will have bowed down to the bully, the bully that you have so many times said we should stand up to. We need to be united against the bullies, lest we will be in peril for years to come. That is both Europe and the US.

You ask, will Trump make the situation in Ukraine worse. In the long term absolutely. The conditions are likely already written by the aggressor. Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO and Ukraine must cede roughly one third of its country. If that condition is agreed then where will the aggressor stop? He will see how weak the West is. He will smell the fear and let us make no mistake, he will take advantage of that like any bully would.

Very good reasoned points OB and can?t argue with that. People want hope and trust the leader can deliver. I would question if there was another vote would Labour get back in after winning by a landslide. So much bull s hit and Labour have really annoyed most who voted for them. Reeves rattles on - we promised not to tax the individual and have kept to that. Complete lie! All businesses due to the budget will either pass the costs on to the public or go bust. Labour is so left wing and woke if anything is mentioned about immigration or grooming the two words are always thrown back - Right Wing!

Back to Trump - do I believe he will curb illegal immigration? Yes I do as we saw what he did with the border wall dividing the US with Mexico. Will Trump stop the Ukrainian war?
My view is like yours - Ukraine won?t join NATO and land taken will be conceded. What other solution is there apart from another World War? Is this right - absolutely not!

You would hope Trump does not allow any further land to be conceded and don?t think he will. Getting Greenland will be a priority to station a base there with missiles. Trump seems more interested in the China issue because of trading and tariffs and can see the logic. China are really a two faced horrible nation.

Will hell be played by Trump if Hamas don?t release those hostages? I believe this is no bluff by him!

As Kettering said - Trump is not one to be messed with as he?s unpredictable. Will others be scared of him? I believe many will!

It?s not in the interests for absolute no marks in the Labour Government to wind Trump up. Whatever anyone thinks we need him far more than he needs us and he?s a nasty individual who will harbour grudges. Starmer seems out of his depth in dealing with him.

The left is collapsing with JT going in Canada and Macron will be next. So that will leave just the U.K.

People are fed up! Remember - I honestly don?t vote but Reform in my view will grow into a big party.