What a

[alfinyalcabo]

Feckin borefest that was. Enough said. 🫣🫣🫣

[Orgoner]

Indeed.

The Premier league can't wait for this pair of make-weights to arrive next season.

[alfinyalcabo]

Indeed.

The Premier league can't wait for this pair of make-weights to arrive next season.

Spot on Orgs .😁

[spaldy]

Does seem rather strange that we both seem to be drifting into the prem along with the blades.

As blah as that game was we still give the bottom teams a game in the prem. Some of them are just not very good.

[whitestomper45]

It will be down to recruitment, very few teams go up with the same squad or style of play ? apart from the likes of Norwich. So can?t really say how we will do if promoted.

How many do we have of PL standard, maybe 5/6
I remember some years back the PL putting pressure on promoted teams who were not active enough in the transfer market and seemingly happy to go straight back down with the money.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Gets harder each year as the top 15 or 16 have definitely much better squads than the bottom 4 or 5.

To think not that long ago we were in the EFL with

Villa
Fulham
West Ham
Bournemouth
Brentford
Palace

All of whom have kicked on and sit in that comfortable mid table zone (or sometimes a little higher).

We would probably need at least 8 players to stay up and possibly a new manager. Farke?s style seems to work in the second tier but he hasn?t been the greatest success in top leagues.

[alfinyalcabo]

Just seen video of Leeds fans throwing coins at Trafford. He took it very well and collected them for his piggy bank.
Didn't know that Yawkies were so well off they could afford to throw their hard earned money away. 🤔🤔

[Monaco_Totty]

Gets harder each year as the top 15 or 16 have definitely much better squads than the bottom 4 or 5.

To think not that long ago we were in the EFL with

Villa
Fulham
West Ham
Bournemouth
Brentford
Palace

All of whom have kicked on and sit in that comfortable mid table zone (or sometimes a little higher).

We would probably need at least 8 players to stay up and possibly a new manager. Farke?s style seems to work in the second tier but he hasn?t been the greatest success in top leagues.

8 players ?
10 minimum !

We are not gonna be Bielsafied for sure any time soon busting a gut to score, for sure.
So we are back to the subject of needing 'exceptional-talent' to tip the balance of the many tight games we keep finding ourselves in.

Leeds will only be looking to snare those rare exceptional-talents in the summer with many only on radar currently, it appears.

Positives are maybe there is a talismatic Pablo type interested in joining us in PL or a finished article of such like of a stylistic Rutter as a mover & shaker into making things happen.

Re-reading Wilkos book leaves me thinking he got things into perspective with savvy signings running throughout the 'spine of the team' with players willing to run through a brick wall - exactly the missing ingredient which makes the difference, imo.

[whitestomper45]

Gets harder each year as the top 15 or 16 have definitely much better squads than the bottom 4 or 5.

To think not that long ago we were in the EFL with

Villa
Fulham
West Ham
Bournemouth
Brentford
Palace

All of whom have kicked on and sit in that comfortable mid table zone (or sometimes a little higher).

We would probably need at least 8 players to stay up and possibly a new manager. Farke?s style seems to work in the second tier but he hasn?t been the greatest success in top leagues.

Yes those clubs have overtaken us helped with great appointments of Managers and Players as well as avoiding relegation from PL and the clubs growing revenue and stature.

Though Spam no longer own a ground and there was a cloud over Bournemouth financial arrangements when getting promoted.

With regard Farke in the PL, he wasn't backed by Norwich in the transfer market when winning promotion. He may want to change style but realise afair few find it a bit stilted presently.

I note 3 of our previous managers currently ply their trade in Lge 1 !

[Monaco_Totty]

Sadly the consequence of all these hirings & firings see the average length of service of PL managers is 750 days now.

So lots of pressure with many Coaches seeing such short stints as gaining work experience.
Fans add to pressures on Coaches as well as players & owners far quicker now alongside 24/7 media too.
With supporters now organised into social media groups, alongside weekly podcasts everything is so 'immediate' & very well organised to put pressure onto owners & CEOs.
Like Man U currently, you cannot ignore such pressure as an owner or CEO cos you gotta stay in touch with your fanbase, end of.

Looking at PL club managers history stats ☺ sees that West Brom averaged a new manager every season they have been in the PL with 13 bosses in 13 campaigns.
There is no doubt that changing managers can lead to success tho as Chelsea have been the prime example with 14 permanent bosses in the last 20 years winning 17 major trophies in that same timeframe !

So is there value in giving a manager time to prove his worth & develop his team nowadays with such huge money invested into such fleeting appointments trends ?