If these plans are accurate

[Zippity]

how would you feel about it?

I love St. James's Park. First went as an 8 year old to see us beat Norwich 5-2 and have had some of the best moments of my life there. In an ideal world, we'd stay there.

But...the football landscape has changed beyond recognition and, if we want to keep up, we need to move, The way PSR works, we need the stadium to bring in revenue not just on a match day. St. James's as it is can't provide us with either the matchday income we need or the non-football revenue-making opportunities that other clubs have.

Keeping the city centre location is an absolute must and this seems to provide the best compromise. If it is true, I'll be interested to find out how they've managed to get the inevitable 'Town Moor' objections. It's not the Town Moor, not as any local knows it and the part of Leazes Park that will go is the bit where you generally find knackers anyway.

Thoughts?

[Jammy89]

I think that it has to happen.

Look at Spud, by turning their stadium into what it is - they make millions in non-footballing revenue. That is something we desperately need.

I've not been to St. James many times but I love it, but I love the club more and we need this change to beat the strangle hold on us.

Even with a new ground we, the fans, can make it exactly as St. James was.

As Sir Bobby said:

What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It’s the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city. It’s a small boy clambering up stadium steps for the very first time, gripping his father’s hand, gawping at that hallowed stretch of turf beneath him and, without being able to do a thing about it, falling in love.”

[Zippity]

Aye, if they get the seating right and gather all the raucous fans together then that could improve the atmosphere. That Spurs end is fantastic and should be their version of the Dortmund wall but, as far as I can tell, it's not like that. Don't know why-White Hart Lane used to be able to produce a cracking atmosphere. Maybe they didn't try to attract 'singing' fans to those seats? Dunno but it looks like a missed opportunity. We've got the chance not to make that mistake.

[Guybrush]

I?m of the opinion, if we?re going for a football stadium, then that would work a treat.

But? for me, we need a venue, something a bit more than just somewhere to go on a match day.

We?ve got this fantastic opportunity to really make a statement, a multi use stadium but with the area around it developed to bring in business income to the club, fan zone, family zone, hotels, bars, restaurants and shops. Somewhere our sponsors can mingle with fans on match days to maximise that income for us too.


I know we have that already being city centre? but I just think if we want to compete, we need to maximise our commercial revenue by making This NUFC income.

Somewhere the 50,000 people who don?t have a ticket can go and soak in the atmosphere. Somewhere tourists want to go and spend some money and buy a Newcastle shirt.

I?d like to see a stadium as the centrepiece of something just a little bit more.

[toptoon]

This is my preferred location for the new stadium.
When the atmosphere at SJP was at its best, it was driven by the Gallowgate (corner and scoreboard) and I think we need that concentration of vocal support again to revive the atmosphere at our new ground. The other sections of the ground will follow. To achieve this all we need is a full standing only stand at one end of the new ground. The rest will take care of itself.

[5under1and]

Not holding my breath would not surprise me if the decision off was put off until the summer not sure which summer though

[Nufcian]

Good it?s a new stadium
Reservations about the shared footprint? build compromises and reduced seating during handover.
Would like to keep some of the existing footprint to put a hotel up on? that way if we need an income boost we can always sell it to PIF in the future 😉
Not too sure about the size, if scale correct would very much be a goldfish bowl design? and not 100% sure of that? would be very steep and not sure about kids and elderly in terms of safety.

[toonviking]

And when its finished, they will change the psr rules so that we cant write off the money it generates! 😂

No seriously, I love this idea. Just make it big enough, I was hoping for more like 80.000...

[Nufcian]

And when its finished, they will change the psr rules so that we cant write off the money it generates! 😂

No seriously, I love this idea. Just make it big enough, I was hoping for more like 80.000...

I?d say go for 70k and design it so it can be extended.

That would be around 14-15k additional seats for us available, we?d have to increase allocations available to away clubs with any increase remember? and I imagine any new design would have to have them behind one of the goals and not up in the gods anymore.

I?d like to keep the noise in? it?s a big old hike and I?d be surer of filling 70k week in/week out than 80k.

In terms of revenue, Spurs increased their seats to just under 63k and saw approx. ?70m jump in match day revenue for the club? so we?d be more than covered that way.

People are gonna not be massive fans, but I?d expect the amount of hospitality will explode, especially for the cheaper Barracks style tickets? that gets the fans inside early and spending more money in the bars there and like it or not that is where the real revenue comes.

I?m feeling a lot more positive we?ll hear about the stadium soon after the news about the training ground, I just hope this kicks off soon? it?ll be years in construction? though if we did chuck a lot of money at it then am sure the schedule can be accelerated? it?s just like any project? good - fast - cheap? pick 2 😉

[PhoneymcRingRing]

I think knocking down St James park and building a new stadium in close proximity is acceptable.

One thing I don?t get is the Saudi take on other MEGA structures projects that seem unbelievable like the LINE city thing they can?t come up with something really special for a stadium, Beverly that new stadium looks meh