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    Health issues etc.

    I do not know about the rest of you but I am getting fed up with so many adverts on TV regarding mental health issues, health issues in general, life insurance, cremations etc. After most programmes they either warn you about what is in the up and coming programme or, at the end of the programme, stating that if you are affected by any issues dealt with in this programme contact this, that or the other. It is no wonder people are concerned about all these issues. It will get to the stage where when Albion lose you will be able to contact some institution or other to relieve your anxieties!!

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    Yes indeed; I don’t remember hearing the term ‘mental health’ before Covid, now it can be perceived to be an excuse for anything. The best relief for anxiety that I know of is a pint or two of Bathams, trouble is, I have a long way to go to get some. That is not doing my mental health any good at all……!

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    It's not just tv ads, the agenda of "mental health" issues is being pushed everywhere it seems.

    Don't get me wrong, cuts and issues within the NHS on mental health services have had a massive impact on very many and it is good in one way that mental health has been more greatly recognized over recent years for the complex and varied topic it is. Very much like the autistic spectrum, however, the pendulum seems to have swung too far the other way.

    Not so long ago, many with genuine needs went un-diagnosed and un-recognized but these days, it seems that far too many are claiming either mental health issues or to be on the spectrum. Whilst more genuine/ deserving cases are left struggling to be treated, NHS and SENCO services are overwhelmed by increasing numbers wanting help.

    Sorry to say it, but I know parents claiming their kids are on the spectrum when the key driver of their behaviour is how they have been brought up/ nurtured and it is a kind of deflection tool to avoid some of their own poor parenting skills. A shortage of competent assessors makes this situation worse.

    Similarly, the rise in the number of people claiming mental health issues since the pandemic-particularly amongst younger generations- is alarming. I am not saying that they do not face genuine issues, just that the drivers in too many cases seem to be rooted in a change in culture/ upbringing. It might be tempting for some to simply say that this is just old boomers labelling them "snowflakes" but there is a lot of recent research indicating that many of the younger generation have not been taught/ brought up with the tools and coping mechanisms needed in life (e.g. seeing any form of criticism as bullying). A kind of lack of resilience if you like.

    Unfortunately, whilst it might be tempting to tell such individuals just to get a grip, this won't work and the only solution is to try and teach them the life skills and coping mechanisms that previous generations learnt early on and took fore-granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    I do not know about the rest of you but I am getting fed up with so many adverts on TV regarding mental health issues, health issues in general, life insurance, cremations etc. After most programmes they either warn you about what is in the up and coming programme or, at the end of the programme, stating that if you are affected by any issues dealt with in this programme contact this, that or the other. It is no wonder people are concerned about all these issues. It will get to the stage where when Albion lose you will be able to contact some institution or other to relieve your anxieties!!
    Arguably not the most enlightened post of 2025 but we're all entitled to an opinion. Personally speaking I wouldn't pass judgement on how stiff someone else's upper lip is or how tight they can lock the chains around their personal baggage. And if you haven't passed judgement I can assure you many of those with issues would feel you had.

    The simple truth is everyone's psychological trunk has a capacity and when that capacity is reached there's a chance the psychological trunk containing your personal baggage will burst open leaving your inner self scattered all over the place.

    One person's challenges are another's kryptonite and life can come at you really fast, especially to those who feel isolated even when they're not. It's got little to do with moral fibre or the passing of generations either as nervous breakdowns and suicide have been a thing for any number of millennia.

    People just didn't necessarily bother others with the inconvenience of listening to them so much. That's not coping, it's deflecting and some can only deflect their own truths and reality for so long. People meltdown in front of others and others meltdown internally enduring in silent misery for decades so as not to be a burden. I wonder why?

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    I had a mate go off work with depression back in the early 80's. The boss went and visited him to see how he was getting on which I thought was a nice gesture. I asked the boss when he returned how my mate was and he said:
    ''Nothing a good kick up the arse would not sort him out.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    Arguably not the most enlightened post of 2025 but we're all entitled to an opinion. Personally speaking I wouldn't pass judgement on how stiff someone else's upper lip is or how tight they can lock the chains around their personal baggage. And if you haven't passed judgement I can assure you many of those with issues would feel you had.

    The simple truth is everyone's psychological trunk has a capacity and when that capacity is reached there's a chance the psychological trunk containing your personal baggage will burst open leaving your inner self scattered all over the place.

    One person's challenges are another's kryptonite and life can come at you really fast, especially to those who feel isolated even when they're not. It's got little to do with moral fibre or the passing of generations either as nervous breakdowns and suicide have been a thing for any number of millennia.

    People just didn't necessarily bother others with the inconvenience of listening to them so much. That's not coping, it's deflecting and some can only deflect their own truths and reality for so long. People meltdown in front of others and others meltdown internally enduring in silent misery for decades so as not to be a burden. I wonder why?
    This was not a criticism of those suffering but more of the fact that TV keeps highlighting all these problems. I therefore wonder if this makes individuals anxious and it puts into their minds that they could be suffering from any of these issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Wazoo View Post
    I had a mate go off work with depression back in the early 80's. The boss went and visited him to see how he was getting on which I thought was a nice gesture. I asked the boss when he returned how my mate was and he said:
    ''Nothing a good kick up the arse would not sort him out.''
    I hope your mate was OK but your boss was clearly a w@nchor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    This was not a criticism of those suffering but more of the fact that TV keeps highlighting all these problems. I therefore wonder if this makes individuals anxious and it puts into their minds that they could be suffering from any of these issues.
    I can't speak for how everyone feels when they see or hear an advert so I won't even try. However, I would imagine those individuals with anxiety (which comes in it's many forms for any number of reasons) that you describe probably have more on their minds than worrying about what's on the TV during it's intermissions from some very depressing and often s hite programming schedules.

    In my experience it's far better to highlight a problem than sweep it under the carpet for the convenience of others which is essentially what you're alluding to. And don't suggest it isn't because despite the fact we all have opinions in the cold light of day that's exactly what you're suggesting.

    I understand the contents of said campaigns hold little interest for you but then you're clearly fortunate enough not to be part of the target audience. But the point is we never know when we or our loved ones will become part of the demographic those campaigns are aimed at.

    All that the majority of these campaigns seek to do is highlight potential issues. They encourage people to talk rather than bottle things up and go pop. They're not designed to be threatening to you in particular or anyone else.

    The great irony being that actually gaining access to mental health services at a later date should they be required can be a very traumatic experience in itself. It's quite literally a lottery and in many cases it only ever happens when you're in deep crisis by which time it's too late for many and there's often irreversible trauma even for those that receive it. Talking isn't a cure but it can help alleviate pressure.

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    Yes this barrage has finally got me at it.

    After Park Run on Saturday I got chatting about my running. A year ago I might have said I did it to keep fit, to lose a bit of weight and I enjoyed it. But now of course I managed to replace the last bit with

    "And it's good for my mental health" Shakes head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    I can't speak for how everyone feels when they see or hear an advert so I won't even try. However, I would imagine those individuals with anxiety (which comes in it's many forms for any number of reasons) that you describe probably have more on their minds than worrying about what's on the TV during it's intermissions from some very depressing and often s hite programming schedules.

    In my experience it's far better to highlight a problem than sweep it under the carpet for the convenience of others which is essentially what you're alluding to. And don't suggest it isn't because despite the fact we all have opinions in the cold light of day that's exactly what you're suggesting.

    I understand the contents of said campaigns hold little interest for you but then you're clearly fortunate enough not to be part of the target audience. But the point is we never know when we or our loved ones will become part of the demographic those campaigns are aimed at.

    All that the majority of these campaigns seek to do is highlight potential issues. They encourage people to talk rather than bottle things up and go pop. They're not designed to be threatening to you in particular or anyone else.

    The great irony being that actually gaining access to mental health services at a later date should they be required can be a very traumatic experience in itself. It's quite literally a lottery and in many cases it only ever happens when you're in deep crisis by which time it's too late for many and there's often irreversible trauma even for those that receive it. Talking isn't a cure but it can help alleviate pressure.
    Actually, at this moment in time I am awaiting a hernia operation. I realise that this in itself is not a major operation but due to a high pulse rate the operation has been cancelled twice, I am now on medication so hopefully the operation will go ahead soon. Many do not have any symptoms but I have been in discomfort for months on end. What I am basically saying is that I do not want to be reminded of all these other illnesses, I just want to forget about the problem. I suppose the bottom line is that we all deal with things differently.

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