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    Lost for words.

    Good grief. I couldn?t finish it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_YCvKC4huc

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    I remember it well and had doubts then and we now look in a desperate position after not replacing the sold assets we had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    I remember it well and had doubts then and we now look in a desperate position after not replacing the sold assets we had.
    I found it unnerving. And I wonder what he is thinking now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    I remember it well and had doubts then and we now look in a desperate position after not replacing the sold assets we had.
    Go back into last week’s PD interview with Douglas. He said the decision was taken not to go beyond the 3 signings patching things up.
    Or words as good as.
    Because they could see it would cost too much Vs the chance we could challenge.

    I personally think this season is all about, or turned into, cost cutting. And full turnover of players (due to contracts) was clearly in mind.
    Everything else that has been said to people I think is bull.

    Due to this interview, either TS is a damned good actor, or actually it is more likely it is everyone else who runs this club and though he has the passion, he just provides the money. Sets the budgets and says to be prudent. End of.

    And sad to say, he has not enough nous to know you can’t make a mini run like a farrari.

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    None of the talk about seeing people giving it 'their all' aligns to signing 30 year old journeymen. He bought in too much to the facade Evans puts out there, and he's obviously been blinded by nostalgia.

    Surely he knows the truth now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UlleyMiller View Post
    None of the talk about seeing people giving it 'their all' aligns to signing 30 year old journeymen. He bought in too much to the facade Evans puts out there, and he's obviously been blinded by nostalgia.

    Surely he knows the truth now.
    Lets hope so UM, lets hope so. But listening to him talking he openly admits to being impatient. Talks of Taylor and Richardson being intelligent men and they will be in the prem in 4 years time. And then says he can’t wait that long. !!??

    Hence suddenly blowing a lot of money allowing taylor free reign. Unheard of at that point.

    Something really important needs to happen now. And for the best.

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    If you listen and read all the interviews and articles published it doesn't look joined up or consistent. I wonder what influence Richard Stewart has on his father and the running of the club day to day? Some people on here say he isn't interested in football at all so what is his role? Personally I am not convinced by the employed management that TS surrounds himself with, he is 80 now so is that impacting his decision making at all? Is it that he loves "yes boss" people and therefore his ego won't allow him to employ high performing individuals that challenge him?
    He has owned the club for way over 10 years now and yes we have had short-term success, but is that planned or luck? How close are we to his vision that he started out with?
    It all seems a little broken and looks like a club in decline, with poor leadership and management at all levels of the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    If you listen and read all the interviews and articles published it doesn't look joined up or consistent. I wonder what influence Richard Stewart has on his father and the running of the club day to day? Some people on here say he isn't interested in football at all so what is his role? Personally I am not convinced by the employed management that TS surrounds himself with, he is 80 now so is that impacting his decision making at all? Is it that he loves "yes boss" people and therefore his ego won't allow him to employ high performing individuals that challenge him?
    He has owned the club for way over 10 years now and yes we have had short-term success, but is that planned or luck? How close are we to his vision that he started out with?
    It all seems a little broken and looks like a club in decline, with poor leadership and management at all levels of the club.
    It is seriously worrying.
    Vision without the necessary, whatever that may be, that is key. Mostly luck I would say.

    Bringing people in like Jackett, stubbs, taylor, richardson, even warnock, without being in alignment was a recipe for things to go wrong or not move forward. Taylor was the worst example.
    Warnock being the exception. Had we had more money he would have stayed.

    Back with evans, openly states, an easy option he knew. The one truth he believes himself. Only he was chosen after many others turned us down.
    If he falls out with football, again, what will happen the second time? More illogical thinking?
    That is another key point.
    There are many key points, which added together creates the doubt which you point rightly out. The club isn’t broken, yet, but it is in a mess.
    Just its own unique way apposed to the 05 days.
    Nothing a bit of clear and sensible thinking can’t cure. A reset.

    Not owning the ground. Owing 5m technically to Stewart. And he will want it back.
    It will take a lot of money to buy out. Like he says, it is about success, not creating wealth.
    Sounds a lot like an ego trip to me.
    And a clearly emotional man, may be rash decisions possible around any corner, yet still based on hard cash thinking. It is an odd mix.

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    Make no mistake at this point in time the future is decidedly bleak and we're heading for League 2 mediocrity, or worse, within the next 5 years. Everything we held dear on the playing side, the tenacity, the commitment, the organisation, the togetherness has drained away in recent seasons. We always lacked quality in-depth but we knew how to counter that deficiency. No longer. Football is, or should be an entertainment industry, what we're enduring week after week is tantamount to self-flagellation.

    By the end of this season we will have no assets on the field with no underpinning via an effective scouting system, academy or development programme. The scenario is even bleaker off the pitch. Rotherham United don't own a blade of grass or a single seat in the New York Stadium. Our training facilities are at best National League standard - though we have an improved drainage system - and I despair at our administrative set-up. especially our archaic contract situation that bleeds money at an alarming rate by failing to come to terms with an ever-changing reality.

    There's been a surfeit of comments on who, or what, is to blame for our rapid fall from grace. In truth the rot set in a decade or so ago. Of course, we've enjoyed successes in the intervening years but in retrospect those served to paper over the cracks that were emanating from a lack of planning, of forward thinking, of football expertise, of investment. You can't build a sustainable football club on wishful thinking, on false promises, on a hand to mouth existence.

    I don't know what Tony Stewart's agenda looks like today. His priorities will certainly have changed over the years. But I believe he had the best of intentions when he first took over the club, perhaps tempered by a dash of egotism. But his biggest mistake was thinking he could go it alone in re*****ising Rotherham United, and perhaps the town. Business acumen doesn't automatically translate to owning and running a football club. There are different forces at play and he needed to adopt a different skill set or, at the very least, to have someone by his side who could advise and above all who he would listen to. That never happened. Hence the stagnation, the missed opportunities, the glaring mistakes, the decline we're currently witnessing.

    I'm not going to proffer a solution. I don't have one. Certainly nothing will change overnight. We don't have the structures in place to deliver that and I doubt we have the will for systemic change. But I hope the chairman appreciates our plight, recognises the dire situation we're in and takes urgent, positive, decisive and, if necessary, drastic action. We cannot simply limp along to next season hoping for another miracle. We've had more than our fair share of those this millennium.

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    Jake Hull been with the Millers from his youth.
    Evans says there are non-lesgue clubs in for the 23 year-old on loan.
    Jake Hull's contract up in the summer 2025, with Evans saying see how he goes on, to whether Hull gets a contract.
    The signs are that he won't be offered a contract, so we lose a young player, who we should be looking to keep & hone his football talent.
    The club could then benefit, if the player comes through, with a transfer income.
    But how the club work we shall loose the player for nothing in the summer, & another club will benefit.
    To me we should keep him here at the club, get him on the bench & use him in games.

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