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Thread: Artificial Intelligence Team Selection

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    Artificial Intelligence Team Selection

    AI is not all it is cracked up to be.
    I asked ChatGPT for Notts? best starting 11 for tomorrow at Gillingham.
    This was the reply.

    For an away match against Gillingham, it?s important to pick a balanced side that can both defend well and create chances on the counter. Based on a typical 4-3-3 formation, here?s how I?d set them up, assuming we?re working with a fairly standard squad with no injuries or suspensions:

    Formation: 4-3-3

    Goalkeeper:
    1. Aidan Stone ? The goalkeeper should be reliable and strong on crosses, especially at a place like Gillingham where set-pieces and direct play are common.

    Defence:
    2. Right-back: Richard Brindley ? Offers pace and attacking support while being solid defensively. Will be key to getting forward on the right.
    3. Centre-back: Adam Chicksen ? A leader at the back, solid in the air, and composed in possession.
    4. Centre-back: Kyle Cameron ? Strong, good in the air, and a commanding presence in defence.
    5. Left-back: Matthew Palmer ? Experienced and reliable, Palmer can support the attack and keep things tight defensively.

    Midfield:
    6. Central Midfield: Jim O?Brien ? Brings leadership, experience, and energy to the middle of the park. Strong at breaking up opposition play.
    7. Central Midfield: Conor McGrandles ? Can dictate play, break lines, and make key passes. He?ll provide balance between defence and attack.
    8. Central Midfield: Callum Roberts ? Offers creativity, dribbling ability, and vision to create chances. Could also drift wide to give the team width.

    Forwards:
    9. Right Wing: Cedwyn Scott ? His pace and movement are ideal for counter-attacks and exploiting space behind the defence.
    10. Striker: David McGoldrick ? A veteran striker with a good eye for goal, excellent hold-up play, and leadership in the attacking third.
    11. Left Wing: Sam Austin ? Provides width and can stretch the opposition with his pace and direct running, also a good finisher from the left.

    This team has a solid base, with experienced heads in key positions. I?d expect them to look to control the midfield battle, use width to stretch Gillingham?s defence, and break quickly on the counter. Ideally, they?d need to be compact defensively while taking their chances when they come.

    What do you think? Would you make any changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1955pie View Post
    AI is not all it is cracked up to be.
    I asked ChatGPT for Notts? best starting 11 for tomorrow at Gillingham.
    This was the reply.

    For an away match against Gillingham, it?s important to pick a balanced side that can both defend well and create chances on the counter. Based on a typical 4-3-3 formation, here?s how I?d set them up, assuming we?re working with a fairly standard squad with no injuries or suspensions:

    Formation: 4-3-3

    Goalkeeper:
    1. Aidan Stone ? The goalkeeper should be reliable and strong on crosses, especially at a place like Gillingham where set-pieces and direct play are common.

    Defence:
    2. Right-back: Richard Brindley ? Offers pace and attacking support while being solid defensively. Will be key to getting forward on the right.
    3. Centre-back: Adam Chicksen ? A leader at the back, solid in the air, and composed in possession.
    4. Centre-back: Kyle Cameron ? Strong, good in the air, and a commanding presence in defence.
    5. Left-back: Matthew Palmer ? Experienced and reliable, Palmer can support the attack and keep things tight defensively.

    Midfield:
    6. Central Midfield: Jim O?Brien ? Brings leadership, experience, and energy to the middle of the park. Strong at breaking up opposition play.
    7. Central Midfield: Conor McGrandles ? Can dictate play, break lines, and make key passes. He?ll provide balance between defence and attack.
    8. Central Midfield: Callum Roberts ? Offers creativity, dribbling ability, and vision to create chances. Could also drift wide to give the team width.

    Forwards:
    9. Right Wing: Cedwyn Scott ? His pace and movement are ideal for counter-attacks and exploiting space behind the defence.
    10. Striker: David McGoldrick ? A veteran striker with a good eye for goal, excellent hold-up play, and leadership in the attacking third.
    11. Left Wing: Sam Austin ? Provides width and can stretch the opposition with his pace and direct running, also a good finisher from the left.

    This team has a solid base, with experienced heads in key positions. I?d expect them to look to control the midfield battle, use width to stretch Gillingham?s defence, and break quickly on the counter. Ideally, they?d need to be compact defensively while taking their chances when they come.

    What do you think? Would you make any changes?
    I totally agree about starting Conor McGrandles. It's about time he was given a chance.

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    I just asked it for an all-time Notts 11. It went with Tommy J and Michael O'Connor in centre mid.

    I guess I've got a few years left before it takes my job after all.

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    The present generation of AI is incapable of actual thought. It's just emulating it through processing huge amounts of stuff written by humans. If the body of text it finds on who should be goalie points to Stone, it will put Stone forward, despite this making absolutely no sense in context.

    It doesn't understand teams, the rules of football, match fitness, player experience and careers, etc etc. It's just scanning buttloads of text and coming up with its answers based on that.

    It is indeed spectacularly overhyped by the press and AI companies on a regular basis. It can be a very useful search tool but you have to understand its limitations:

    a) it doesn't actually understand anything it's telling you

    and

    b) its only as good as its input data, which is generally speaking the same stupid/incorrect crap the rest of read on the interwebs every day - the AI is just processing more source material per answer than we do (at a lower level, too)

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    A.I,A.I.A.I - o
    Down the Football League we go.

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    For all the stupid things that are said on here, they are far, far superior to this AI cr*p.
    I just worry that political and military decisions makers use this stuff to base policy on. Rubbish In - Rubbish Out

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    There's an embarrassing advert currently saturating talkSport for Google's 'Gemini' AI service. They've used an actor trying his best to sound like some stereotypically thick white working class van driver asking it how his team are going to get on this season, the voice for Gemini - portrayed by some middle class ponce - replies that they could do well "with a bit of luck" and that it "will be keeping an eye on the scores". I'm sure that's going to get people grabbing their phones at the first opportunity to lump on at the bookies with this new and incredible insight.

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    ChatGPT can be useful. I know personal trainers who start periodization programming and daily food planning there and refine the results by individual needs. Drilling down through the initial output with careful questioning will give you useful and interesting results. It can save time by doing a lot of the groundwork, but it still needs human quality control.

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    Unfortunately examples like the above are used to show AI is rubbish. It is and it isn?t.

    If you asked my wife the same question, the results would be worse. Trust me.

    Assuming ChatGPT is the be all and end all of AI is to do AI a great disservice.

    I?ve no doubt at all the radar uses some AI be that machine learning (commonly misinterpreted as what AI is), and I?ll bet it can pick a very good starting Notts 11.

    Whoever you are, my wife, children and even mad members, if you want to learn and improve your knowledge you need guidance and training. AI is no different.

    Make no mistake true AI will improve exponentially as we did as children. That is its reason for being.

    My wife however, is a lost cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Don_ORiordan View Post
    Unfortunately examples like the above are used to show AI is rubbish. It is and it isn?t.

    If you asked my wife the same question, the results would be worse. Trust me.

    Assuming ChatGPT is the be all and end all of AI is to do AI a great disservice.

    I?ve no doubt at all the radar uses some AI be that machine learning (commonly misinterpreted as what AI is), and I?ll bet it can pick a very good starting Notts 11.

    Whoever you are, my wife, children and even mad members, if you want to learn and improve your knowledge you need guidance and training. AI is no different.

    Make no mistake true AI will improve exponentially as we did as children. That is its reason for being.

    My wife however, is a lost cause.
    context!

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