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Thread: O/T:- Taiwo Awoniyi out of coma

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    O/T:- Taiwo Awoniyi out of coma

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/a...s/cp92njv53k3o

    I'm sure there will be some that say, who cares about Awoniyi? (really??) and there will be some that defend this abomination of the offside rule, but the instruction to allow play to continue even if a player is offside must be one of the most ridiculous additions to the offside rule ever placed on it.

    Aside from the horrific injury that happened to the attacking Awoniyi, in my opinion, the rule is already a farce which benefits the attacker, because he (or she) has to be interfering with play to be offside, whereas any defending player can play an attacker onside, whether he (or she) is 'interfering' with play.

    I might be a bit thick, but if I was a manager and any of my players on the pitch weren't deemed to be interfering with play - I'd say what the hell are they doing on there?
    Last edited by SwalePie; 15-05-2025 at 10:57 AM. Reason: Fixed off topic prefix

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/a...s/cp92njv53k3o

    I'm sure there will be some that say, who cares about Awoniyi? (really??) and there will be some that defend this abomination of the offside rule, but the instruction to allow play to continue even if a player is offside must be one of the most ridiculous additions to the offside rule ever placed on it.

    Aside from the horrific injury that happened to the attacking Awoniyi, in my opinion, the rule is already a farce which benefits the attacker, because he (or she) has to be interfering with play to be offside, whereas any defending player can play an attacker onside, whether he (or she) is 'interfering' with play.

    I might be a bit thick, but if I was a manager and any of my players on the pitch weren't deemed to be interfering with play - I'd say what the hell are they doing on there?
    Didn't Klopp have a rant against this rule a few years ago when Rui Patricio was injured following a race for the ball by a Wolves defender and Salah who was
    slightly offside? Seem to remember he suggested clear and obvious offsides should stop play immediately. But it's judging that 'clear and obvious' isn't it?

    I used to cringe when I saw Macca going hell for leather when he was past the back line in an offside position.

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    Agree that carrying on playing is nonsense and, unfortunately, an accident like this was waiting to happen. Thankfully he appears to be on the mend and the coma was induced presumably to stop additional trauma. Regardless of rivalry I'm sure many (hopefully all) wish him a full and speedy recovery.

    If we gave offside for any attackers in that position on the assumption that they must all be interfering with play, then quite a lot of goals from corners would be flagged because the corner taker would be offside (having just interfered with play but no longer really doing so). I do agree that the interfering rule needs to be tightened up where a player can be retreating in close proximity, and effectively acting as a dummy (however unwittingly) and not be deemed offside.

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    I don't think the offside rule is the reason for this injury. Had the player not been offside, he'd have been injured none the less and here lies the problem. In this instance, he would not have been injured, but it doesn't actually stop the injury of a player colliding with the posts going forward.

    I'd argue goal posts need padding on them. Not quite Rugby style pads but something that would help with collisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0ufMk3 View Post
    Agree that carrying on playing is nonsense and, unfortunately, an accident like this was waiting to happen. Thankfully he appears to be on the mend and the coma was induced presumably to stop additional trauma. Regardless of rivalry I'm sure many (hopefully all) wish him a full and speedy recovery.

    If we gave offside for any attackers in that position on the assumption that they must all be interfering with play, then quite a lot of goals from corners would be flagged because the corner taker would be offside (having just interfered with play but no longer really doing so). I do agree that the interfering rule needs to be tightened up where a player can be retreating in close proximity, and effectively acting as a dummy (however unwittingly) and n
    ot be deemed offside.
    Apart from you can't be offside from a corner. Good to see he's on the mend didn't Jatta colide with a goal post too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0ufMk3 View Post
    Agree that carrying on playing is nonsense and, unfortunately, an accident like this was waiting to happen.
    In any 30 second period of play there is the possibility that a player will get injured. That an accident like this was waiting to happen. is likely to happen in any of the 180 30 second periods of play in a game, and in fact, they do happen.

    The only logical conclusion is therefore to ban all 30 second periods of play in a match. The offside ruling is not the culprit here and the injury could have happened in any period of play.

    I'm not sure I would be prepared to run full pelt towards a goal post. Most players that do seem to come off worse.

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    Good news, sounded like a bad injury.

    Have seen many players hitting the goal post and making me wince.

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    Quote Originally Posted by since41 View Post
    Apart from you can't be offside from a corner. Good to see he's on the mend didn't Jatta colide with a goal post too.
    Agree from the actual corner because everybody is behind the ball, but if that ball is then headed towards goal by an attacker the corner taker would (often) be offside if interfering with play was irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0ufMk3 View Post
    Agree from the actual corner because everybody is behind the ball, but if that ball is then headed towards goal by an attacker the corner taker would (often) be offside if interfering with play was irrelevant.
    How come though, an attacker has to be 'deemed' to be interfering with play to be offside, but a defender can play any attacker onside, irrespective of where he is standing or 'interfering' with play?

    Now I hasten to add, I have never been a defender, but when you see a ball played down the left wing, to an attacking player, who is played onside by a defender on the opposite side, it just seems like a bull$hit idea to falsely increase attacking opportunities at the expense of common sense.

    In the real world, that defender on the opposite side, is very rarely going to be in a position from that play, to have any part in defending the attack .
    Last edited by Lullapie; 15-05-2025 at 11:32 PM.

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