More than Manager at Fault

[andyss1886]

Time is obviously running out for SMC. But spare me the rubbish that he has been 'found out' or 'lucky'. He has made big mistakes on his signings (including re-signings) cup has been so bad its funny...well maybe not, but for the last 3 seasons he has done well, typical Motherwell fans! He will carry the can for these mistakes as I cant see any other way out. The players have been a disgrace this season, Sat was the first time I lost it with them, there comes a time when they don't deserve the backing of the fans.
While he have this hysteria over the manger (who we will replace with either Dumb or Dumber in K. Black or club legend S. Leitch (don't make me fkn laugh)) we are forgetting the role the utterly useless custodians in the board have played in the shocking demise of our club, I say club and not just team, because its a shambles. The only time you hear from them is to beg for more money or tell you how skint we are...ok we get it.
One look across the clyde should worry every Wel

[LawSteelman]

On the whole I agree with you, the club from top to bottom is a shambles and there is no direction, vision or leadership whatsoever. We have, for as long as I can remember had a loser mentality running from boardroom to the stands and that is why, amongst other things, we constantly lose players for a pittance whilst our rivals rake in thousands more, even millions. Guys you mention such as Murphy, Randolph, Ojamaa have all had superb potential whilst with us yet we refuse to talk them up instead preferring guff like "he's a good lad, great trier, hopefully someday he'll get himself a move to the lower leagues of England bla bla bla" as sound bytes. And we wonder why we never get anything for them and thus lose money?

However on McCall, I have to disagree with you that it's rubbish to say that he's being found out now. Myself and a few others on here have said for years on here that McCall is a poor manager, tactically inept and one dimensional and has no answer to having to deviate f

[andyss1886]

Listen, good points about the mentality at the club 100% agree, just couldn't find the words to explain that, so well done.
we can agree to disagree on the manager, yeh he inherited decent players, but they still had to play and win every week and he kept that going for 3 years, so I believe that he has something.
Not here to offer up excesses for SMC, as I said his signings have been poor (and they are letting everyone down) and we have lost the plot this year, so maybe it is time to go. He is maybe fed up trying to keep us up there with less and less every season, only he knows if he has lost his apatite.
It doesn't matter, my worry is that with our track record of doing everything for as little/cheep as possible we will end up with what we pay for...Black/Leitch eg. Its Truly frustrating right now, and there doesn't appear to be any light at the end of the tunnel.
There are **** loads of players out of contract, which will get rid of the dross, however I fear what kind of team we wi

[wellin]

You mention next year, and yes if we stay up and if McCall's still here, will be the most important pre season we'll have had in a long time from top to bottom. A few of the player's we have will be out of contract. As we can see just now they need replacing, that's when the board will have to come up with the funds for decent player's. Player's of the calibre of josh law won't cut it, no harm intended to the boy but he's out of his depth, even in a p*** poor premier league. A goalkeeper who couldn't get a game for Dundee in the championship isn't good enough, Bob McHugh, again he's a championship player at best. Teams like Dundee Utd can go and sign players from lower leagues and get a decent return on them while we just sign the dross basically. Our club needs washed out from top to bottom as right now we are a shambles. I read in the press this morning that a consortium bid £2 million for accies, we've been up for sale for a few years now but looking in from the outside aren't a pro

[steviex]

[quote="andyss1886"]Listen, good points about the mentality at the club 100% agree, just couldn't find the words to explain that, so well done.
we can agree to disagree on the manager, yeh he inherited decent players, but they still had to play and win every week and he kept that going for 3 years, so I believe that he has something.
Not here to offer up excesses for SMC, as I said his signings have been poor (and they are letting everyone down) and we have lost the plot this year, so maybe it is time to go. He is maybe fed up trying to keep us up there with less and less every season, only he knows if he has lost his apatite.
It doesn't matter, my worry is that with our track record of doing everything for as little/cheep as possible we will end up with what we pay for...Black/Leitch eg. Its Truly frustrating right now, and there doesn't appear to be any light at the end of the tunnel.
There are **** loads of players out of contract, which will get rid of t

[Yazz]

However on McCall, I have to disagree with you that it's rubbish to say that he's being found out now. Myself and a few others on here have said for years on here that McCall is a poor manager, tactically inept and one dimensional and has no answer to having to deviate from his Plan A and that a run like this has been coming for a long time. McCall benefited greatly in his first two full seasons of having a largely inherited good squad of players with no injuries or suspension crisises to deal with, he appears to place more consensus on a happy squad than tactics IMO. There was always going to come a time when we didn't have the benefit of a good squad and no injuries and here it is and I'm afraid that this is when you see a good manager, when he has to adapt and change. Stuart McCall has demonstrated this season the he simply isn't able to do this and isn't up to the task.

Totally agree. May I add, it's like Mcleish all over