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Thread: Opportunity for Paul to fight the good fight

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    Opportunity for Paul to fight the good fight

    I recall during the lead up to the Wigan Appeal Paul said in an Official Statement that Barnsley FC were dismayed at the standard of football governance in general set by the EFL and would be involved significantly in the fight to improve things.

    Having seen Wigan being docked 12pts by the EFL, the EFL successfully defending Wigan's Appeal and then the EFL docking the Pigs 12pts for next season, all of which were/are in Barnsley's favour, Paul has gone quiet on these issues. I know Paul would not have been speaking purely in self interest and wished to fight poor governance at a more general level.

    Today's news that Derby have been cleared of all issues relating to their ground sale with no points deductions or fines this is the perfect chance for Paul to step up to the plate and fight this for football in general. Surely it wasn't hot air, bluff and bluster, which would be most unlike him.
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    The danger has passed for Paul and co to have to dip into their own pockets to keep the club in business .

    There's nothing more to see here folks on this subject .

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    The board and other clubs wanted the EFL to make there decision this season and not next.Wednesday and Wigan were found guilty and rightly punished Derby have been found not guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill46 View Post
    The board and other clubs wanted the EFL to make there decision this season and not next.Wednesday and Wigan were found guilty and rightly punished Derby have been found not guilty.
    Mr Conway was highly critical of the governance of the EFL Bill when we were in grave danger of relegation .

    He particularly went in to detail about Sheffield Wednesday and the points deduction coming off last seasons tally and not the following one which is exactly how it played out .

    He threatened legal action against the EFL if that happened .

    As things played out we survived because of Wigan Athletic entering administration and weren't affected by Sheffield Wednesday .

    The legal attack dogs have been called off by Mr Conway because basically we are alright Jack and Mr Conway is now more at ease with the governance of the EFL as a consequence of the demise of Wigan Athletic .

    So reading that , Mr Conway is actually only interested in bad governance when it affects us directly which isn't the position he took initially when he came from an angle of making the governance of the EFL fit for ALL .

    He's not only a hypocrite but he's a snake and a manipulator of the highest order and I wouldn't trust him to tell me the right time of day .

    But that's just my opinion .
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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Mr Conway was highly critical of the governance of the EFL Bill when we were in grave danger of relegation .

    He particularly went in to detail about Sheffield Wednesday and the points deduction coming off last seasons tally and not the following one which is exactly how it played out .

    He threatened legal action against the EFL if that happened .

    As things played out we survived because of Wigan Athletic entering administration and weren't affected by Sheffield Wednesday .

    The legal attack dogs have been called off by Mr Conway because basically we are alright Jack and Mr Conway is now more at ease with the governance of the EFL as a consequence of the demise of Wigan Athletic .

    So reading that , Mr Conway is actually only interested in bad governance when it affects us directly which isn't the position he took initially when he came from an angle of making the governance of the EFL fit for ALL .

    He's not only a hypocrite but he's a snake and a manipulator of the highest order and I wouldn't trust him to tell me the right time of day .

    But that's just my opinion .
    Don't think it's just your opinion Animal [see what I did there] but one shared by all right minded people
    There may be one dissenter though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiletyke View Post
    Don't think it's just your opinion Animal [see what I did there] but one shared by all right minded people
    There may be one dissenter though
    Indeed Exile , if Mr Conway was so determined to clean the EFL up as he suggested initially then he'd have made it known he was supporting Charlton Athletic who also were looking to take legal action against the EFL because they were directly affected by Sheffield Wednesday not having the points deducted last season and would have survived had that been applied , which it should have .

    Charlton Athletic are in a perilously position right now with ownership issues and it would appear don't have the financial means or direction right now to undertake legal proceedings .

    Perhaps Mr Conway could have supplied them with a legal team and funding and made an arrangement to receive it back when Charlton were in a position to do so .

    If you felt so strongly about something within the industry you worked in then its something you'd do .

    Well unless you were a not only a fake but also had the morals of an hyena .
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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Indeed Exile , if Mr Conway was so determined to clean the EFL up as he suggested initially then he'd have made it known he was supporting Charlton Athletic who also were looking to take legal action against the EFL because they were directly affected by Sheffield Wednesday not having the points deducted last season and would have survived had that as it should have been applied .

    Charlton Athletic are in a perilously position right now with ownership issues and it would appear don't have the financial means or direction right now to undertake legal proceedings .

    Perhaps Mr Conway could have supplied them with a legal team and funding and made an arrangement to receive it back when Charlton were in a position to do so .

    If you felt so strongly about something within the industry you worked in then its something you'd do .

    Well unless you were a not only a fake but also had the morals of an hyena .
    Without adding on any extras about mis trust or whatever Conway,Gibson the guy at Bristol City and others wanted the EFL to act now and not in the preseason and thats exactly what the EFL have done.Wigan didn't have a leg to stand on administraion equals 12 points,Wednesday were found guilty and points deducted next season personally I feel they should have been deducted this season,and Derby have been proven innocent.So as far as I can see the board rooms up and down the country got what they asked for the EFL to act now and not later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill46 View Post
    The board and other clubs wanted the EFL to make there decision this season and not next.Wednesday and Wigan were found guilty and rightly punished Derby have been found not guilty.
    I think most will know the facts Bill but I respect your right to say what they are.

    I await with interest Paul putting into motion the high principles he espoused in an Official Statement about challenging the EFL's general poor governance on behalf of football clubs in general. I'm sure you, as a man of principle, would expect him to stick to his promise and would wish him well in that task as a kind of knight in shining armour.
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    Do you honestly think Conway should be fighting battles for every indevidual club? can you imagine the abuse he'd get from those with an agenda against him "riding into town with his stetson on etc" He did what he and others said and that was to make sure justice was dished out at the right time.The constant attack in my eyes is getting a bit boring now.He we sign a player theres an ulterior motive ,if a player signs a new contract theres an ulterior motive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill46 View Post
    Without adding on any extras about mis trust or whatever Conway,Gibson the guy at Bristol City and others wanted the EFL to act now and not in the preseason and thats exactly what the EFL have done.Wigan didn't have a leg to stand on administraion equals 12 points,Wednesday were found guilty and points deducted next season personally I feel they should have been deducted this season,and Derby have been proven innocent.So as far as I can see the board rooms up and down the country got what they asked for the EFL to act now and not later.
    You come across as satisfied at the eventual outcomes Bill , I suspect our own survival has probably influenced that which is fair enough .

    How would you have felt had we gone down but wouldn't have done if the 12 point deduction for Wednesday had been applied ? .

    I suspect it wouldn't have been met with a casual shrug of the shoulder .

    The EFL is still corrupt Bill and next season it may be us to fall foul of its mismanagement .

    There was an opportunity this summer to clean the EFL up and one of it's strongest critics Mr Conway has chosen to walk away based on our own championship survival .

    What goes around comes around Bill .

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