1st test for the foundation?

[Returnofrros]

Is the mothballing, closing or reduction of the youth set up the first test for the foundation?

Been thinking about what would happen the 1st time DFC piss some of the support off and wonder what the drop off in direct debits might be.

I'd expect a peak of membership then a bit of drop off then a levelling out but decisions from DFC might have a bearing on the cancellations.

One thing you are guaranteed with Nelms is he's gonna make unpopular choices.

[islaydarkblue]

Is the mothballing, closing or reduction of the youth set up the first test for the foundation?

Been thinking about what would happen the 1st time DFC piss some of the support off and wonder what the drop off in direct debits might be.

I'd expect a peak of membership then a bit of drop off then a levelling out but decisions from DFC might have a bearing on the cancellations.

One thing you are guaranteed with Nelms is he's gonna make unpopular choices.

That is bound to happen as the novelty wears off especially if there is no improvement on the pitch or the youth set up is curtailed.
From memory I think that the money raised annually by the Well Society fell from £211k to £188k.
According to Motherwell Football Club Limited annual accounts their chief executive receives an annual salary of £60k.

[Deeranged]

According to Motherwell Football Club Limited annual accounts their chief executive receives an annual salary of £60k.

Oor John wouldnae get oot o' bed fir that.

[islaydarkblue]

Oor John wouldnae get oot o' bed fir that.

That is the problem of having American owners. He is being paid an American size salary to work at a Scottish Football Club.

[Deeranged]

That is the problem of having American owners. He is being paid an American size salary to work at a Scottish Football Club.

An American employee doing the same job as me, based in America and in the same company earns less than I do and has less incentives included so no idea where you get this 'American size salary' from.

[BCram]

An American employee doing the same job as me, based in America and in the same company earns less than I do and has less incentives included so no idea where you get this 'American size salary' from.

Thanks Deeranged. This doesn't fully explain the difference between the Motherwell CEO salary and the DFC directorss salaries but it is nice to know that the urban myth that everything in the States is bigger, ain't necessarily so!

[islaydarkblue]

An American employee doing the same job as me, based in America and in the same company earns less than I do and has less incentives included so no idea where you get this 'American size salary' from.

Thank you for your information.
I continually read about the huge salaries paid in America compared to the UK.

[islaydarkblue]

Is the mothballing, closing or reduction of the youth set up the first test for the foundation?

Been thinking about what would happen the 1st time DFC piss some of the support off and wonder what the drop off in direct debits might be.

I'd expect a peak of membership then a bit of drop off then a levelling out but decisions from DFC might have a bearing on the cancellations.

One thing you are guaranteed with Nelms is he's gonna make unpopular choices.

The first test for the Foundation has arrived thanks to the latest news in today’s Courier which is covered by a separate topic on this forum.

[BCram]

Thought this's topic might be worth more discussion. It seems to me that perhaps running a successful youth programme might be the second task that the board should concentrate after they have got the first team arrangements in place. I really know nothing about the youth setup at Dens but I thought the loss of the coaches was a signal that the whole system was being mothballed and yet I read today that Souter is coming in as goal keeping coach.

For me, the youth setup is the strongest advertising message that our club has. You get enthusiastic youngsters coming to play football, they have families and friends and it just seems to me that selling youth football is the best way to bring in new families or retain families who have several football keen youngsters.

What efforts are made to attract potential youth players? How much does it cost to run the setup? Are there benchmarks that are available to measure the effort our board makes in this area compared to similar championship sides? You would think that Gordon Strachan would be a tremendous asset. However how can you run a youth setup without coaches? If we have volunteers, what are we doing to support them? I think the cash raised by the 1893 Foundation will be needed elsewhere but if it were available putting it into the youth programme might actually be the best use. Imagine there are 100 kids involved that might be say 75 families. If we had a creative Family Season ticket for youth academy players maybe at £200 for 2 or 3 adults plus 2 or 3 kids that's £150 k in season tickets. We are not ever selling every seat so getting some money plus bringing in potential parents and grandparents might be a worthwhile return for the club. I am sorry but I see little obvious support from the board for our youths, apologies if I have got this wrong.

[BCram]

funny, McPake is in the Courier today talking positively about the youth coaches. Great to see.