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    Another Covid-19 myth

    We are continually being told that we can become infected with the Covid-19 virus as a result of it being on a hard surface.
    This is another myth.
    There was an article in the Sunday Times dated 4th October 2020 that we can only become infected with the Covid-19 virus if we are close to someone spewing the virus from their nose and mouth without in most cases knowing that they are doing so.
    A US microbiologist called Emanuel Goldman explained in the article tests in laboratories bore ‘little resemblance to real life scenarios’.
    There has also been an article recently published in the Lancet that Italian researchers reported their attempts to grow the virus from samples recovered from surfaces in a coronavirus hospital ward in Pavia, Northern Italy had proved unsuccessful. This information proves that there is nothing to prevent spectators attending football matches throughout the U.K. as long as they wear a face mask to prevent the transmission of the Covid-19 virus by someone sneezing or coughing.
    In my opinion it is high time that the politicians and ‘health experts’ throughout the U.K. and beyond came to their senses. They should not be depending on laboratory tests but instead testing what happens in everyday life.
    Then things can get back to normal and I can watch Bargain Hunt on BBC1 Scotland at 12.15pm on weekdays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    We are continually being told that we can become infected with the Covid-19 virus as a result of it being on a hard surface.
    This is another myth.
    There was an article in the Sunday Times dated 4th October 2020 that we can only become infected with the Covid-19 virus if we are close to someone spewing the virus from their nose and mouth without in most cases knowing that they are doing so.
    A US microbiologist called Emanuel Goldman explained in the article tests in laboratories bore ‘little resemblance to real life scenarios’.
    There has also been an article recently published in the Lancet that Italian researchers reported their attempts to grow the virus from samples recovered from surfaces in a coronavirus hospital ward in Pavia, Northern Italy had proved unsuccessful. This information proves that there is nothing to prevent spectators attending football matches throughout the U.K. as long as they wear a face mask to prevent the transmission of the Covid-19 virus by someone sneezing or coughing.
    In my opinion it is high time that the politicians and ‘health experts’ throughout the U.K. and beyond came to their senses. They should not be depending on laboratory tests but instead testing what happens in everyday life.
    Then things can get back to normal and I can watch Bargain Hunt on BBC1 Scotland at 12.15pm on weekdays.
    Reminds me of the film Sully where the computer models of the crash bear little resemblance to real life

    Still hoping Boris, Hancock and Sturgeon will end up in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Reminds me of the film Sully where the computer models of the crash bear little resemblance to real life

    Still hoping Boris, Hancock and Sturgeon will end up in court.
    Have been watching Glenn Close as Patty Hewes in tv series Damages. Need someone like this to get some traction for a change in policy. Not really expecting the politicians to get into trouble but do think there will be payouts, like the PPI payouts, once the lawyers get themselves organised. My sympathy is with the families who have lost elderly relatives who were not treated by the NHS and moved into the care sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Have been watching Glenn Close as Patty Hewes in tv series Damages. Need someone like this to get some traction for a change in policy. Not really expecting the politicians to get into trouble but do think there will be payouts, like the PPI payouts, once the lawyers get themselves organised. My sympathy is with the families who have lost elderly relatives who were not treated by the NHS and moved into the care sector.
    I have previously posted that after I received details of my negative Covid-19 test at Kings Cross Hospital from the Public Health Scotland NHS Tayside doctor I had a short discussion with her and I said that it was ridiculous that the people in the care homes throughout Scotland had been left to die. She replied that we will not get into the politics of that. End of conversation. I had obviously touched a ‘raw nerve‘ and Public Health Scotland staff were not allowed to speak about it especially as they under the control of the SNP controlled Scottish Government and dissension is not allowed from the ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I had obviously touched a ‘raw nerve‘ and Public Health Scotland staff were not allowed to speak about it especially as they under the control of the SNP controlled Scottish Government and dissension is not allowed from the ranks.
    Are you genuinely mental? The SNP now controls individual doctors and tells them what they can and cannot think?

    You need to go back to that doctor and ask for a referral to a decent shrink because you're away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Are you genuinely mental? The SNP now controls individual doctors and tells them what they can and cannot think?

    You need to go back to that doctor and ask for a referral to a decent shrink because you're away with it.
    My brother died in January 2017 aged 56 from what can only be described as an ‘NHS ticking time bomb’.
    My brother could still be alive if the results of an investigation in 2007 had not been ‘swept under the carpet’ by Health Secretary’s at both Westminster and Holyrood. The treatment my brother had received which ultimately caused his death in 2017 previously took place in an Edinburgh Hospital.
    In March 2017 I spoke to a Health professional and he told me in that in 2004 he knew about the ‘side effects’ of the treatment which caused my brother’s death in 2017 but health professionals are not allowed to speak out. Whistleblowing is frowned upon in the NHS.
    As a result of my anaphylactic shock I have spoken to various health professionals trying to find out what caused my near death experience about the cause of my brother’s death as a result of treatment he received many years before. They also know about the problem but they are mot allowed to speak out and blow the whistle.
    A Labour peer with an Islay connection is a worried man. I informed him at the end of June 2017 that my brother died in January 2017 as a result of an investigation bring swept under the carpet at Westminster when the Labour Government was in power. I further added that a Health professional knew about the problem in 2004 which put another four Labour Health Secretaries in the frame. This Labour Peer’s computer suddenly went into ‘holiday mode’ and I received an ‘out of office’ reply informing me that he was on holiday until the beginning of September 2017.
    Towards the end of September 2017 I sent this Labour Peer another email but he never replied.
    However he is still alive and kicking as I noticed last year that he opened the new Ardnahoe Distillery on Islay
    People throughout the U.K will have died since 2017 from the same condition as my brother but nobody is prepared to do anything about it.
    I will not die from the same health condition as my brother as I have not had the same treatment as he received many years ago.
    I will probably die from stress dealing with people who will not accept that I post facts on this and other forums.

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    Is there a source of statistics that gives the date of a person death in hospital, the date they were admitted, age, BMI and details of previous general health? Seems to me with the actual numbers of recent deaths it should be possible to give a much more detailed account of those who have died and are being reported as a covid death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Is there a source of statistics that gives the date of a person death in hospital, the date they were admitted, age, BMI and details of previous general health? Seems to me with the actual numbers of recent deaths it should be possible to give a much more detailed account of those who have died and are being reported as a covid death.
    NHS Scotland, NHS England, NHS Wales and NHS Northern Ireland will be able to provide this information if they receive a Freedom of Information (FOI) request. However there is a financial limit to the cost of providing this information free of charge.
    The National newspapers will have sufficient financial clout to pay for the cost of a large FOI request like this one.

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    Today on the Coronavirus update on BBC1 Scotland a Public Health Scptland ‘expert’ admitted that the wearing of masks will not halt the spread of the the Covid-19 virus. People should also be washing their hands.
    Earlier this year the British public were told that it was pointless wearing a mask to stop the spread of the virus and it was essential that we should wash our hands. Then at the beginning of July the wearing of mask was mandatory to stop the spread of the virus and now these ‘experts have changed their minds yet again.
    In my opinion we should have just let this virus run its course with no publicity and eventually it would have disappeared just like swine flu virus which hit the U.K. in 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Today on the Coronavirus update on BBC1 Scotland a Public Health Scptland ‘expert’ admitted that the wearing of masks will not halt the spread of the the Covid-19 virus. People should also be washing their hands.
    Earlier this year the British public were told that it was pointless wearing a mask to stop the spread of the virus and it was essential that we should wash our hands. Then at the beginning of July the wearing of mask was mandatory to stop the spread of the virus and now these ‘experts have changed their minds yet again.
    In my opinion we should have just let this virus run its course with no publicity and eventually it would have disappeared just like swine flu virus which hit the U.K. in 2009.
    Spot on, no one bats an eye lid when the flu figures get mentioned, this is no different

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