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    VAR again!

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, VAR is not the problem but those using it. VAR just shows a replay of the action. Look at the Villa game yesterday and I'm not talking about the two tackles. Villa scored a legitimate goal as far as I'm concerned. Previously we had an incident in a game when an attacker pointed to where he wanted the ball. That was deemed to make him offside. If you look closely at yesterday's incident one of our defenders had his arm in front of the Villa player and therefore, according to the previous incident, played him onside. Completely inconsistent.

    The way VAR is being used by the officials is ruining the match. Let's get back to the three on field officials running the game. Yes, they are only human and will make mistakes, just like the players, but as long as they do it honestly and without bias, just accept it as we have had to in the past. We also have the farcical situation where fans are often waiting up to three minutes before they know the result of a decision taking all the spontinaity out of the game. Get rid of it NOW because it is causing far more controversy that it was supposed to eradicate.

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    100% agree with you LB

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    The art of defending pre VAR. Quite a few like Livermore which used be a common tackle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwzBIc-vTgM

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    V A R is basically Some ‘Erbert @ Stockley Park in a confessional booth twiddling about on a refurbished “Etch A Sketch” who de-cyphers what he wants to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by freer View Post
    V A R is basically Some ‘Erbert @ Stockley Park in a confessional booth twiddling about on a refurbished “Etch A Sketch” who de-cyphers what he wants to see
    One big betting scam

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    There were some dodgy ref’s and VAR decisions in the game.

    With the present rules Livermore’s tackle was a red card, and so was Hause’s. Since we were already one down and considering how sh**e we are, I don’t think that influenced the outcome of the game, to be honest.

    I would never have protested against Watkin’s offside goal, but with present rules and VAR lines drawn, he was offside.

    Greasy Jack took a dive, of course, so wrong penalty decision - but, that did, of course, not influence the outcome of the game either.

    But, going back early in the game, how about possible offside on El Ghazi for the first goal? Present rules (which I don’t agree with) obviously state that you can be offside with an arm. Remember Bamford’s disallowed goal earlier this season (vs Palace away I think), where he pointed where he wanted the ball, and was judged offside. The replay I have seen it seems that El Ghazi’s arm was below Furlong (who was fast asleep btw) - but I have not seen it from perfect angels, and with no VAR lines etc. If wrong, that had huge impact on the outcome of the game. Why no VAR check (because we’re Albion)?

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    Take VAR to the extreme and you have a computer game. So there you have it, play all matches as a computer game and you will have solved the social distancing problem and no need for the knee bending s**t either.

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    Some of the 70's matches with Leeds utd would have had no players on the pitch after 20 mins with VAR now.

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    Foden’s goal for Man C looked offside in real time and was confirmed by replay as clearly offside.

    No VAR in Carabao so goal stands. Does it matter? If enough think it does then we need to make VAR work, if not then get rid of VAR and stop moaning when the wrong decisions are made.

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    Arsenal’s first goal against Chelsea tonight, a penalty, VAR backed up the refs original decision, except that it was a dive. Gary Neville co-commentating convinced that it was a dive, even the slow motion did not show up any contact, so what is the point of VAR when they just ignore cheating? Premier League stinks.

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