Vote Of Confidence In The Conservative Party Leader, 6:00pm to 8:00pm

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

Between 6:00pm and 8:00pm this evening there will be a Vote Of Confidence in the Conservative Party Leader. The electorate is the Conservative Parliamentary Party of 358 MPs.

I would like a win for the incumbent Leader by 198 votes for and 160 votes against. By the rules this would be a win and he could carry on without there being another such vote for another year. By that time there would be mixed feelings amongst Conservative MPs about doing this again, it being too close to the possible time range in which the next General Election could occur. That would be an interesting dilemma, a certainty of losing the General Election if the incumbent remains in place against the certainty of losing the General Election under a new leader who will not have enough time to establish his / her credibility.

As for the current contest a win for the incumbent by 198 to 160 would cause civil war in the Conservative Party, which would be a satisfactory result.

[howoldboy]

Between 6:00pm and 8:00pm this evening there will be a Vote Of Confidence in the Conservative Party Leader. The electorate is the Conservative Parliamentary Party of 358 MPs.

I would like a win for the incumbent Leader by 198 votes for and 160 votes against. By the rules this would be a win and he could carry on without there being another such vote for another year. By that time there would be mixed feelings amongst Conservative MPs about doing this again, it being too close to the possible time range in which the next General Election could occur. That would be an interesting dilemma, a certainty of losing the General Election if the incumbent remains in place against the certainty of losing the General Election under a new leader who will not have enough time to establish his / her credibility.

As for the current contest a win for the incumbent by 198 to 160 would cause civil war in the Conservative Party, which would be a satisfactory result.

It is time for a Conservative leader that northern voters can relate to.

Has to be Jacob Rees-Smug.

[Blackdogblue]

It is time for a Conservative leader that northern voters can relate to.

Has to be Jacob Rees-Smug.

Sorry mate, my vote goes to Boris… I do not do Politics as I have said on other threads & failed promises aside from the “Conservatism” party aside I do think he is / has done a great job under a lot of pressure through Covid & better than our greatest ally “that Numpty” in the US…

Again another debate to a degree, if Trump had been re-elected, would the butcher really have been allowed to flatten the Ukraine or would they both unified have said “we dare you”…

💙💛

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

On a fair comparison basis of Covid deaths per million of population the UK is 202nd in that league table. That is 201 countries have performed better than the UK has done. Over the last quarter of a century the UK economy has resolutely been the 5th most powerful on the planet, regardless of which was the governing party and regardless of being in / out of the European Union. If the UK had had the same death rate as the 50th country that would have been almost 150,000 fewer deaths.

Thus the total mismanagement of this by the current government has cost 150,000 lives. Yet we constantly hear Conservative MPs boast about the early arrival of the vaccines, otherwise they have nothing to say about Covid.

This alone is worth a complete dismissal of the Prime Minister and Cabinet. I could write a list of their failures, negligence, corruption, law breaking etc that would be as long as my d­ick, but of course a list that long would take all day to read.

[howoldboy]

On a fair comparison basis of Covid deaths per million of population the UK is 202nd in that league table. That is 201 countries have performed better than the UK has done. Over the last quarter of a century the UK economy has resolutely been the 5th most powerful on the planet, regardless of which was the governing party and regardless of being in / out of the European Union. If the UK had had the same death rate as the 50th country that would have been almost 150,000 fewer deaths.

Thus the total mismanagement of this by the current government has cost 150,000 lives. Yet we constantly hear Conservative MPs boast about the early arrival of the vaccines, otherwise they have nothing to say about Covid.

This alone is worth a complete dismissal of the Prime Minister and Cabinet. I could write a list of their failures, negligence, corruption, law breaking etc that would be as long as my d*ick, but of course a list that long would take all day to read.

Agreed Stefan.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see".

Over 40% of his own MPs no longer have confidence in him.

He is a serial liar who is an embarrassment to the country and is unfit for public office.

Hopefully the public will finish him off at the ballot box in the next few months.

His end is nigh.

[griff]

You can pick your own metaphor, but today BJ is either the dead cat or dead sheep of blessed memory. He’s now in no position to savage anyone or bounce back and I can imagine that there will be three or four of his colleagues starting their campaigns to replace him even now. Of course that could be a problem; one credible alternative would stand a better chance.

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

For those who want the careers in high office of the current prime minister and his sheep to gradually decline and end, last night's result was perfect. The Conservatives cannot win the next General Erection. There are some folk who say that the current Prime Minister will be gone by the time of the main Conservative Party Conference, which begins on 2nd October, but I see no mechanism for this.

Of course the old British army way of dealing with someone who had no honour was to send someone to see him and give him a bottle of
gin and a revolver. In this case the current Prime Minister would drink the gin and shoot its deliverer.

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

I made a slight error, an understatement of the grim figures. Here are the exact facts.
For at least the last 25 years the UK economy has been and continues to be the 5th most powerful on the planet, regardless of the governing party and regardless of being in / out of the EU.

Bearing that in mind it is more than shameful that the ratio of covid deaths per million of population puts the UK in 202nd place in the Covid deaths list. That is 201 countries have had a lower rate of Covid deaths per million of population than the UK has had.

Let's consider what the situation would be if the UK had the identical Covid death rate per million of population as the 100th in that world table. It would have had 148,420 fewer deaths. How about the UK aspiring to be 50th in the world table? It would have had 173,175 fewer deaths.

Let's be clear about the sort of result that we are entitled to expect of our government. With the 5th most powerful economy on the planet I believe that we are at least entitled to expect our government to do a lot better than have us 202nd in anti-Covid proficiency. Let's aspire to be 50th. Well, it has not happened. If the UK had the identical death rate to the 50th it would have had 173,175 fewer deaths than it has had.

Yet Conservative MPs continuously state that the vaccines arrived early and they actually boast about the government doing well with Covid. But they have nothing to say about the specific figures of the dreadful excessive death rates. For this matter alone the Prime Minister and his Cabinet are unworthy of office.