If not, who then?

[norfolk white]

It seems Marc roca is about to be our third signing, many on here keep critisiing anyone that we sign. The 2 lads from leipzig are apparently second rate, we haven't seen them have one game for Leeds yet. Let them have 10, then you can crtiscise. I put it out there....Who should we sign then?

[norfolk white]

Apologies, that should have been salzburg not leipzig.

[Rev72]

Always a concern when Orta is at the wheel.

[spaldy]

I know I'm a broken record but...

a couple of proven, physical championship players.


FWIW- physicality does not describe any of our signings so far. Kock, Llorente, Firpo don't fit that description either. If we lose phillips we will be a doormat down the middle of the pitch.

we seem reluctant to commit to big minutes for Strujik, Cresswell or Heldje who are physical.

I don't want to be in the Burnley model but we do have to have some physical players. Just a fact in the prem.

[WTF11]

Said this in another thread (can't remember which!);

Nketiah from Arsenal
Taylor from Burnley (If he can face the flak when he first appears)
Tarkowski from Burnley (slap fat Frank in the face!)
Cornet from Burnley
Miniminho from Liverpool (another player Marsch might be "comfortable with" given past working together
Olise from Palace
Trossard from Brighton
Vestergaard from Leicester
Mendy from Leicester

Obviously not all, but a combination to address the known weaknesses, and go for at least some of those players who are proven AND in demand (yes, costs more, but for how long are we going to persist with chasing players very few other clubs want?).

[spaldy]

Is Trossard available? He's a very good player for them.

[WTF11]

Is Trossard available? He's a very good player for them.

Not sure if any of the names relate to "available", but since when did that matter when clubs come sniffing around the likes of Philips? Why should we restrict ourselves to those who are unable to command a place in their existing team, or are at the end of contract? I know, money, but someday we have to show some ambition, we're not the only club that has to manage within tight budgets, but others seem able to do so (Olise to Palace for less than £10m as an example)

[Tichi1]

Not sure if any of the names relate to "available", but since when did that matter when clubs come sniffing around the likes of Philips? Why should we restrict ourselves to those who are unable to command a place in their existing team, or are at the end of contract? I know, money, but someday we have to show some ambition, we're not the only club that has to manage within tight budgets, but others seem able to do so (Olise to Palace for less than £10m as an example)

What is the difference [Apart from hindsight maybe] between Olise to Palace, and Kirstensen to Leeds - about the same price? addmitedly we dont yet know how good he will be for us, but the same could be said about Olise? Obviously now we all know how good he is - a little like Raphinia - "Who" ? 14 months ago?

Olise played for a poor Reading side in the Championship, Kirdstensen has champions league experience.

As I always say - lets judge our new players - and by extension Orta's success or otherwise AFTER they have played a few games - NOT beforethey have kicked a ball.

[Billyni]

Not sure I’d welcome any of the Bumley players either.
Unless it’s relegation experience that we’re looking for?

[WTF11]

Not sure I’d welcome any of the Bumley players either.
Unless it’s relegation experience that we’re looking for?

All are fighters and well versed in the kind of lower-table squabble we might well be in next season. the fact we survived (by the skin of our teeth), is hardly grounds for expecting us to replicate our first season.

To be specific amongst those, Taylor is a world away from what we have at present. He may well have left ER under a cloud, but if he was man enough to accept a reasonable offer I for one would like to se what he can do for us (lot's of supporters were enraged when we took on Diouf, but he became something of a fan favourite in his short stay at ER, so it can be done).

As for the observation from Tich regarding Olise, yes he was in a poor Reading side, but still managed to net 7 times in his final season there, and has continued with 4 in all competitions last season (if only our midfielders could replicate that). Why was Viera prepared to take a punt on him (at £8.7m!!)? Perhaps he saw what Leeds didn't, or didn't look to start with, having "settled" on the likes of James (at 3x the cost and exactly the same number of goals last season)?