How good were PW new signings

[Derbymiller]

We seem to be split between those that think we didn't recruit well, those that think what we got was all we could get and those that think we did well if we were 8th when PW left. So if you look at the 11 signings, I have posted my views what do others think.
Bramall – Poor defensively, could improve, set pieces poor, looks a League 1 player
High (Loan) – 25 games for play-off Huddersfield, cant get a start, difficult to judge with just a few substitute opportunities.
Eaves – No convinced at all, a 3rd of the season gone, looks slow, and well passed his best, 3 year deal seems a very strange decision.
Washington – Works hard will get 5 ot 6 goals a season, not a championship level player
McCart – Hasn’t started a league game, so no idea if he is good or bad. Another wage spent on a player that doesn’t play.
Norton-Cuffy (Loan) – Decent bit of business, however he is young and can’t be expected to play 40+ games
Humphreys – Looks ok, reads the game well, is calm but slow, also seems a it of an injury prone player
Peltier – Slightly younger Wood and PW mate
Hall (Loan) – A good solid Championship player towards the end of his career, but a good addition.
Kioso – Injury prone, so no idea if he is any good, another wage for a player that doesn’t play
Hemfrey – No idea

[Back of the net]

Poor signings yes the budget aint great but it’s been wasted.
He’s shafted us.

[welovebooth]

Budget was ****.

Not 1 penny spent in transfer fees

Pw said he wanted to see commitment before signing a new contract

Than he went to a league 1 club.



Anyone who thinks given the choice pw would off signed the players he did are in cloud cooko land

Scraping the free transfer barrel.

[Derbymiller]

Budget was ****.

Not 1 penny spent in transfer fees

Pw said he wanted to see commitment before signing a new contract

Than he went to a league 1 club.



Anyone who thinks given the choice pw would off signed the players he did are in cloud cooko land

Scraping the free transfer barrel.

That is complete and utter twardle, or PW is a liar. PW stated numerous times that all the people involved in the recruitment had to be onboard for a player to sign, so you are saying PW sat in those meetings and said no to all those players but the club signed them anyway against his wishes. If you really believe that happened then you should go and take more pictures of the fairies at the bottom of your garden.

[ragingpup]

I think Warne did what he had always done last close season. No different. But he knew as well as us that it was a long shot to survive with the players he and his staff gathered together. With good management, the same squad will most likely challenge well in league 1 next season although the likely loss of Dan, Chio and Viking may well be the end of the yo-yo period. But we'll see.

[caytonmiller]

You could argue with the exception of eaves they are ok.

Peltier was brought in to rotate with woods. We can all see they don't work together but both play well when they are the sole leader.

Bramhall in league one was class for Lincoln and players we should be taking a risk on. Given time he will improve.

Washington works hard. Has scored 2 lovely goals and players better with ogbene. Not sure he will score enough goals to say he's been successfully this season.

Cuffy. First 2 games I though omg,. What has warne brought in. Then he had 2 ok games followed by a motm game. Then last 2 he's been poor.
Something I notices when we played, I believe millwall. MT called the players over when the game stopped. All came over except cuffy who just stood with his hands on his hips looking at the bench. I don't think he's warming to MT..

Humphreys I like. The way he plays He looks slow and laboured but he always seams to be in the right place at the right time. His best games are when we have hall and wood along side him. Think he will be good for the millers..

Hall,. Perfect signing for the millers,. Not too old. Good height and willing to stick his head in. Yes he has a pace problem but most tall CB do.

mcCart, high and kioso I've not seen enough to say either way

[gru]

You could argue with the exception of eaves they are ok.

Peltier was brought in to rotate with woods. We can all see they don't work together but both play well when they are the sole leader.

Bramhall in league one was class for Lincoln and players we should be taking a risk on. Given time he will improve.

Washington works hard. Has scored 2 lovely goals and players better with ogbene. Not sure he will score enough goals to say he's been successfully this season.

Cuffy. First 2 games I though omg,. What has warne brought in. Then he had 2 ok games followed by a motm game. Then last 2 he's been poor.
Something I notices when we played, I believe millwall. MT called the players over when the game stopped. All came over except cuffy who just stood with his hands on his hips looking at the bench. I don't think he's warming to MT..

Humphreys I like. The way he plays He looks slow and laboured but he always seams to be in the right place at the right time. His best games are when we have hall and wood along side him. Think he will be good for the millers..

Hall,. Perfect signing for the millers,. Not too old. Good height and willing to stick his head in. Yes he has a pace problem but most tall CB do.

mcCart, high and kioso I've not seen enough to say either way

Seem McCart rate. Hall can do a job. Norton-Cuffy can if he's managed not in every game. Kioso don't know.



Rest not for me. Bramall especially don't rate. Eaves same 3 year contract to a forward his age how stupid is that!

[mygiddypant]

Yesterday I responded to a posting by Yak where he said that Warne had left us with a "load of dross". Derbymiller responded to my post with this -

oh come on everyone could see it was a false a position and we wouldn't have maintained it, if you think he recruited well, then obviously that is your opinion and you are welcome to it, but take each player that was was brought in and explain why you think that, i would love to see your views, because I could be missing something and I am happy to be corrected with well thought through arguments.

Clearly Derbymiller, yak, gru and others think that Warne is to blame for our current malaise. However, go back to the period before Warne left and it's very difficult to find criticism of the team (individual performances excepted). My recollection is that the majority were happy with the replacement(s) for Ihiekwe and that recruitment generally had gone well.

To prove the point here are Derbymiller's postings from earlier in the season, most are post-match.

13/09 post Watford

that was a wonderful point against a very good team. 10 points in 7 games is a great achievement and we have to believe we can do a shock next week. Wood was excellent at both ends, and the whole team gave everything. If Washington could get a shot on target we could have even won that, very concerned by his shot ratio to shot on target ratio. Eaves runs a lot but not seeing any ability to make the ball stick when it comes to him and silly foul to give that free kick away near the end. However these are small things that can be worked on overall a wonderful results and performance.


15/09 post Blackpool
A great result and the 2nd half performance was very good. We were slow out of the blocks and very lucky not to be behind in the first 10 minutes, better teams will punish us for that sort of start. We have a great midfield, when they are on song they have to be right up there with the top midfields in the league, no wonder that two of them were wanted by other teams. Creating a solid defence foundation was a good decision by PW we are difficult to breakdown, I am sure the top teams will do better against us, but most of this division will find us hard to play against. Washingtons work rate is outstanding but he isn't a natural goal scorer. very pleased for Kelly that was a real poachers goal, perhaps if we are lucky we could have found our goal poacher. Poor old Wiles played so much better last night than recent games, hit the post with a cultured shot and only Ogbene stopping him getting his first goal. Ogbene is better at home than away in my opinion, we need to have an outlet when we are away from home, Eaves should be that, let us hope he doesnt become a sicknote and it is just bad luck. Highlight for me was Bola, he did more in his time on the pitch than Bramall had done all game, made a goal, crossed the ball quickly when he had space, where as Bramall has to beat his man at least twice before crossing. It was nice for PW to speak so well of the lad in his interview as well.
If we can grab a point at Boro then we go into the break in a great position.


17/09

I think if we lose Warne we won't recover for many years, we would get relegated this year and struggle in L1 as a lot of players would leave in the summer or January. i was accused on an earlier post of promoting a view that PW hasn't been sufficiently backed, that is correct that is my view, I think PW is too nice to come out and say it openly but he hinted at it in at least one interview. It wouldn't surprise me if he left, if he is offered the job. I don't think it would be a good move for him, they won't be patient and PW needs time because his success is built on developing a culture at the club


18/09 post Mid’boro

That was an excellent point against a team that will be top 10 by the end of the season, 5 clean sheets is amazing at this level and the only concern is we don't create enough away from home. 1 goal away all season and we never looked like scoring yesterday, however what a great start to the season. We have hard games to come but take a few points from those hard games and build on that. I think if we can be 2 or 3 places above the bottom 3 by the time the world cup comes we will have done very well, all that depends on us keeping PW I am not convinced we will do that.

01/10 Wigan match thread

Don't look the same group or players and certainly don't look a team, no surprise really. very sloppy, some of the players don't seem interested and are going through the motions. We have to appoint an experienced manager and it has to be before the next game otherwise we will drop like a very big stone. Wood and peltier are not the answer this is the Championship not a sunday kids league where someones dad runs the team. Really need to pick up 2nd half, washington provides no threat going forward, but at least he is trying. Barlasar looks so dis interested, like his best mate has moved out of the area. We need some look would take a draw now

Suddenly, we have turned to "dross" with Warney taking a lot of the blame.

It beggars belief.

[CAMiller]

We seem to be split between those that think we didn't recruit well, those that think what we got was all we could get and those that think we did well if we were 8th when PW left. So if you look at the 11 signings, I have posted my views what do others think.
Bramall – Poor defensively, could improve, set pieces poor, looks a League 1 player
High (Loan) – 25 games for play-off Huddersfield, cant get a start, difficult to judge with just a few substitute opportunities.
Eaves – No convinced at all, a 3rd of the season gone, looks slow, and well passed his best, 3 year deal seems a very strange decision.
Washington – Works hard will get 5 ot 6 goals a season, not a championship level player
McCart – Hasn’t started a league game, so no idea if he is good or bad. Another wage spent on a player that doesn’t play.
Norton-Cuffy (Loan) – Decent bit of business, however he is young and can’t be expected to play 40+ games
Humphreys – Looks ok, reads the game well, is calm but slow, also seems a it of an injury prone player
Peltier – Slightly younger Wood and PW mate
Hall (Loan) – A good solid Championship player towards the end of his career, but a good addition.
Kioso – Injury prone, so no idea if he is any good, another wage for a player that doesn’t play
Hemfrey – No idea

Didn't Paul Warne sign every player we have so why not include those in the list as well or don't you want to highlight the positives? It would seem that way because recently you are just having a dig at everyone and everything? As for spending wages on players who don't play, every team has a squad of 23/4/5 players so will have 7-8 players who aren't playing but being paid.

[welovebooth]

That is complete and utter twardle, or PW is a liar. PW stated numerous times that all the people involved in the recruitment had to be onboard for a player to sign, so you are saying PW sat in those meetings and said no to all those players but the club signed them anyway against his wishes. If you really believe that happened then you should go and take more pictures of the fairies at the bottom of your garden.

Yes I'm sure they all agrees to the signings

But I'm sure if he had money to spend he wouldn't off signed them. X,(which was mu point)