Brexit Undone?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Following a two hour passport queue to get into Poland and a one hour queue to get out and seeing first hand the excellent state of the Polish economy I wondered if Blow Job deliberately lied about Brexit.
Of course he did.
Apparently 56% of Brits want to Re-join.
Thoughts please?

[Supersub6]

Boris didn't lie about Brexit, he just said what those voting for it wanted to hear. The fact that nobody in power had any plan formulated should the vote be in favour of leaving is the main reason that we are in the mess that we are in. It was totally 'reactive politics' which were used to try to smooth the way nad it has failed miserably.
In respect of queuing at passport controls etc. ---why are you surprised? EU citizens can travel freely between EU countries, however, we are no longer part of the EU so must be treated accordingly. When I was in Germany in the late 1960s we had to stop at the borders of Netherlands, Belgium and France even if we had just been on a day trip. Coming home on leave, you had to factor in all the border stops in order to ensure that you caught the ferry.
This year, in November (?), most British travellers to Europe, aged between 18 and 70, will be required to pay for an 'Etias' which will be valid for three years. Those aged under 18 or over 70 will receive one for free but will have to apply before travelling.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Boris didn't lie about Brexit, he just said what those voting for it wanted to hear. The fact that nobody in power had any plan formulated should the vote be in favour of leaving is the main reason that we are in the mess that we are in. It was totally 'reactive politics' which were used to try to smooth the way nad it has failed miserably.
In respect of queuing at passport controls etc. ---why are you surprised? EU citizens can travel freely between EU countries, however, we are no longer part of the EU so must be treated accordingly. When I was in Germany in the late 1960s we had to stop at the borders of Netherlands, Belgium and France even if we had just been on a day trip. Coming home on leave, you had to factor in all the border stops in order to ensure that you caught the ferry.
This year, in November (?), most British travellers to Europe, aged between 18 and 70, will be required to pay for an 'Etias' which will be valid for three years. Those aged under 18 or over 70 will receive one for free but will have to apply before travelling.

Johnson has just been found guilty of lying about anything and everything.
The last three flights I have taken have been to Germany, Spain & Poland. They all have one thing in common, they are treating us Brits like dog$hit at Border Control and it is really spoiling the travel experience.
So much so, the wife is saying, "Let's not bother and stay in Britain."
Saturday lunchtime it was about 35 degrees in the Passport Hall and we were made to wait two hours to get through. Some passengers were getting very aggressive and the police arrived to calm things down.
Suddenly four more control stations opened and in we went. It's 2023 not the late 60's and there really are no excuses for treating Brits like dog$hit.

[Supersub6]

Johnson has just been found guilty of lying about anything and everything.
The last three flights I have taken have been to Germany, Spain & Poland. They all have one thing in common, they are treating us Brits like dog$hit at Border Control and it is really spoiling the travel experience.
So much so, the wife is saying, "Let's not bother and stay in Britain."
Saturday lunchtime it was about 35 degrees in the Passport Hall and we were made to wait two hours to get through. Some passengers were getting very aggressive and the police arrived to calm things down.
Suddenly four more control stations opened and in we went. It's 2023 not the late 60's and there really are no excuses for treating Brits like dog$hit.

We are no longer members of their club, therefore, count yourself lucky that they let you in at all.
Some of us who had lived in Europe pre-EU days tried to warn you what would happen and --- guess what ---- we have only just reached the tip of the iceberg.
It is odds of 27 to 1 and many Brits voted to show that members of the 27 countries are not welcome to come to the UK and take 'our jobs' ---we can do without them.

Some of those who voted for Brexit wanted our Sovereignty back, however, they did not want a Sovereign. I suppose that they have almost achieved their objective because we are much nearer not having a Sovereign than getting our Sovereignty back.

I have just had a wonderful trip to Norway and Iceland and entered both countries without delays, in fact, I didn't even need to show any documentation. I am off again to the North Cape next month and will almost certainly have no problems. Mind you, havng said that, I have never had any problems going there in the past.

You think that they are treating Brits like dog$hit, however, that is typical of the arrogant British attitude to things which upset them ---particularly when going to foreign countries. There is a term for this sort of thing, isn't there?

[wanderlust]

Following a two hour passport queue to get into Poland and a one hour queue to get out and seeing first hand the excellent state of the Polish economy I wondered if Blow Job deliberately lied about Brexit.
Of course he did.
Apparently 56% of Brits want to Re-join.
Thoughts please?

You're preaching to the converted BT - only 9% of voters think it's been a success although a further 19% reckon it's failed but are against rejoining because "it wasn't done properly" and the other 18% reckon it's failed but are dogmatically enslaved.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You're preaching to the converted BT - only 9% of voters think it's been a success although a further 19% reckon it's failed but are against rejoining because "it wasn't done properly" and the other 18% reckon it's failed but are dogmatically enslaved.

A firm Leaver me Lusty but I'm failing to see any material benefits after leaving. I hate to say it but I'd rather put my trust in the EU politicians rather than either Starmer or Sunak. But then again, would I?

[Swissclaret]

I think it was the right decision to leave. I don’t think it is the decision that is the problem - it is the slow, bureaucratic, ill - planned implementation that is the problem.

Seven years on and the Government is still messing around with repealing some, not all, of the European laws that fettered business. Abolishing red-tape was supposedly a priority.

Trade deals with non - EU countries have been slow to come to fruition. Again freedom of trade was a priority.

Controlled immigration of workers, not the abolition of immigration of workers, was a priority. A complete b*lls up leaving fruit and veg growers unable to recruit skilled pickers.

One element stands behind these failings (and others) - a civil service determined to make it fail. For many the EU was a gravy train that they hoped to join to supplement their final salary pensions. Coupled with other remainers intent on ignoring the democratic will of the public, there has been a concerted effort to scupper Brexit.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I think it was the right decision to leave. I don’t think it is the decision that is the problem - it is the slow, bureaucratic, ill - planned implementation that is the problem.

Seven years on and the Government is still messing around with repealing some, not all, of the European laws that fettered business. Abolishing red-tape was supposedly a priority.

Trade deals with non - EU countries have been slow to come to fruition. Again freedom of trade was a priority.

Controlled immigration of workers, not the abolition of immigration of workers, was a priority. A complete b*lls up leaving fruit and veg growers unable to recruit skilled pickers.

One element stands behind these failings (and others) - a civil service determined to make it fail. For many the EU was a gravy train that they hoped to join to supplement their final salary pensions. Coupled with other remainers intent on ignoring the democratic will of the public, there has been a concerted effort to scupper Brexit.

Stand in an EU Border Control queue S_c with a British Passport and you can see just how much thought did NOT go into the travelling process.

[sinkov]

I think it was the right decision to leave. I don’t think it is the decision that is the problem - it is the slow, bureaucratic, ill - planned implementation that is the problem.

Seven years on and the Government is still messing around with repealing some, not all, of the European laws that fettered business. Abolishing red-tape was supposedly a priority.

Trade deals with non - EU countries have been slow to come to fruition. Again freedom of trade was a priority.

Controlled immigration of workers, not the abolition of immigration of workers, was a priority. A complete b*lls up leaving fruit and veg growers unable to recruit skilled pickers.

One element stands behind these failings (and others) - a civil service determined to make it fail. For many the EU was a gravy train that they hoped to join to supplement their final salary pensions. Coupled with other remainers intent on ignoring the democratic will of the public, there has been a concerted effort to scupper Brexit.

Bang on the money there Swiss, as you say a lot of people not happy that they were kicked off the EU gravy train, and are determined to ensure it won't work.

[sinkov]

Following a two hour passport queue to get into Poland and a one hour queue to get out and seeing first hand the excellent state of the Polish economy I wondered if Blow Job deliberately lied about Brexit.
Of course he did.
Apparently 56% of Brits want to Re-join.
Thoughts please?

I think you'll find it was Theresa May that lied, Brexit means Brexit etc, not Boris.

I gave up travelling to the USA a few years ago, fed up waiting 2/3 hours to get through immigration and passport control, 4 desks open to deal with a fully loaded 747 was normal, and that had nowt to do with Brexit.