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Thread: Enforced Sales vs Ambition

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    Enforced Sales vs Ambition

    Twitter, or X as it’s now terribly named, is amok with rumours that we’re being forced into a big sale by close of play tomorrow to satisfy Profit & Sustainability Rules (PSR). It started with Minteh but now the likes of Isak and even Gordon are being heavily linked with big money moves to Chelsea and Liverpool respectively. We all know the rules as they are need changing as they serve only to prevent other clubs from breaking up the established dominance of the cartel. Do we think if one of more of our star players leave, we’re showing a lack of ambition or are we doing the right thing by staying within the rules? It’s a moral dilemma but I’m siding with staying within the rules, even if that means we have to suffer a big blow in the next 48 hours. Gordon in particular would feel like a smack in the mouth. He’s crucial to the way we play and would set us back a long, long way.

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    I’m hoping it’s fake news put out by club to try to swell public opinion anger about this ridiculous PSR situation.
    It’s turning the 14 into feeder clubs for the 6 with the former making up the numbers, watching the 6 to see which one of them wins the league and qualifies for the CL.

    We need a revival in sporting integrity in football and no club deserves a rule advantage today because of past glories or (in Chelsea and Man City’s cases) because they bought success before the introduction of PSR.

    Drop the cr*p about protecting clubs from financial ruin because that’s easy to achieve. If we don’t get a change from this current situation then I, for one, will change my mind and start to support the formation of a super league so that the cartel f**** off from English football.

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    It's almost worth giving up if we have to sell Gordon or Isak.

    I mean, seriously, what's the fucking point.

    I wish those 6 clubs had fucked off to theor own 'super league'. PSR is like playing Monopoly with Trump as the banker.

    Being shit, I can handle. injustice boils my piss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    It's almost worth giving up if we have to sell Gordon or Isak.

    I mean, seriously, what's the fucking point.

    I wish those 6 clubs had fucked off to theor own 'super league'. PSR is like playing Monopoly with Trump as the banker.

    Being shit, I can handle. injustice boils my piss.
    What is the sense in selling either Gordon or Isak. We couldn't replace them with better players.

    Stick with what we have, and know and are comfortable with.

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    How much would it cost to replace these players?
    How many points deduction (if true) would it be?
    How many points are the players worth?

    Take the hit, if there is one.
    Get the lawyers on the case and take on FFP… an amount set in 2014 not linked to AT LEAST inflation is anti competitive for every team in the league other than the select few.

    If FFP was linked to inflation we would be able to make losses of over 230m over a 3 year period.

    F**k the establishment, we (and many other clubs) need to say enough is enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    What is the sense in selling either Gordon or Isak. We couldn't replace them with better players.

    Stick with what we have, and know and are comfortable with.
    For my 10 pence worth. It's all paper talk. We not selling any of the key players.

    As a club we have done nothing wrong. City's case is going to be pivotal.

    6 clubs out of 20 are experiencing issues. Chelsea, Aston Villa, Newcastle, Everton, Nottingham Forest, and Leicester City.

    Including City that 7 of 20 with direct issues with the financial restrictions. 35% more than 1 in 3 clubs are unable to operate in the financial constraints despite all 7 clubs being more than capable of 'self-finance'.

    Each will take legal action against the league and the rules.

    From a Newcastle perspective selling the players that make us a threat will not happen. We're better off going through the process, taking a fine and then appealing it.

    When you have a club like the Red Filth who are essentially operating from a position of borderline bankruptcy, only paying off the interest repayments the whole financial system is clearly flawed.

    Regardless of what you think of Chelsea or Man City right now. It's a case of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

    There needs to be a consensus among the 7 to repeatedly challenge the legality of these rules to nullify any penalties brought by the EPL in terms of points deductions. Also, there needs to be a complete rethink of the financial rules.

    Quite simply FFP was brought in by UEFA to stop the wealth Premier League clubs dominating their weaker more greedy Europe counter parts.

    I've state many times. I know for a fact La Liga & Seria A were offered similar profit sharing deals as the Premier League model and the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juve and the Milan clubs laughed at the proposal, they took is as in insult to share their wealth with their league partners.

    Then when the Prem teams started to dominate and get all the attention due to it being exciting and competitive the same people say their sponsorship revenue dwindle which invoked the response for them to threaten UEFA that they would start their own competitions in which they controlled all the money and power.

    The government should make the football clubs heritage sites and bring in controls much like Listed buildings.

    Heritage football teams can never play their competitive league matches outside of their own ground or city for any other reason than the need to redevelop stadia.

    That puts an end to the whole American land grab of our birth right.

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    Rename the stadium "PSR at St.James Park" for the year for 30 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sclox View Post
    Rename the stadium "PSR at St.James Park" for the year for 30 million.
    Best idea I've heard so far.

    Mind, you just know that the CartPL will say 'oh, it's only worth £5 mil a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    Best idea I've heard so far.

    Mind, you just know that the CartPL will say 'oh, it's only worth £5 mil a year.
    lol yeah would be very funny.

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