What is the correct nett migration number for the UK?

[mickd1961]

I’m struggling to get an answer to the this on the voting thread.

We’ve needed 330,000 new homes being built every year for donkeys years now and we never even get close to hitting the 330,000.

We can’t cope now due to lack of housing and lack of public services and the NHS is at capacity.

So how many additional do we let in each year be they illegals or non illegals?

[mickd1961]

Your own should be given priority. Many of our elderly can’t afford to heat their houses - get stair lifts fitted or any priority whatsoever. Any form of serious crime from somebody entering should revoke their U.K. citizenship immediately.

That Begum woman still lodging appeal after appeal. Who is paying for all this?

What’s the nett immigration number into the U.K.?

That’s my question.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

It's reckoned by 2050 (I might just see it) UK population will 80 million, overtaking Germany as the largest in Europe.

Back to the original question. I find the lack of a definitive answer quite baffling. Just on this board we have some labelling immigrants as an unsustainable drag on the economy and others they are an important contribution to the economy. Which is it?

I would like to know of the circa 1.5 million that have arrived in the last 2 years how many are contributing and how many are not and why not. Then we have an informed discussion. And knowing that surely it is not beyond the wit of even our politicians to get the balance right. Is it?

[soulman101]

The net should be 0, 1 in and one out unless they have got the right skills.

[baggieal]

The net should be 0, 1 in and one out unless they have got the right skills.

Totally agree Lloyd! Right skills being the key words.

I am sure Marie Le Pen will be encouraging them all to set sail. I can see dinghy factories in Germany and France upping production!

[westcountryvillain]

I believe it's in the order of 500,000.

[mickd1961]

I believe it's in the order of 500,000.

500,000 a year allowed to come WCV?

Are you serious?

[Omegstrat6]

Guess that the ONS website should have most accurate-if not completely up to date data-but important to look more closely at detail.

When I checked back in Nov 2023, net migration for 2022 was up to a record 745000 so way above Cameron's promise back in 2010 to get the then figure of 250,000 back to under 100,000

Figs for 2022 showed nearly 1 m coming to UK from outside of EU. 25% plus from India then Nigeria, China, Pakistan. 40% came to study, 33% to work (nearly all in health/care industries) The "shortage occupation" policy is liked by many Tories as provides cheap labour to fill gaps but I personally agree with those who argue that it helps feed exploitation and acts as an incentive for companies to take on more cheaper foreign workers rather than to pay more to attract/train UK workers.

In 2022 89,000 requested asylum in UK of which 45% arrived via boats. 2023 data shows most come from Afghanistan, Iran, India, Pakistan plus Ukraine. Jan-March 2023 40,000 sent back (48% more than in 2020-mostly as Conservative gvt belatedly did what other European countries had done 3 years before and got agreements with Albania and Romania to return rejected asylum seekers).

It's a European issue with -again 2022 fig-uk 1/5 highest number of asylum seekers behind Germany, France, Spain and Austria.

Immigration is undoubtedly a big issue-but maybe for different reasons other than just those Farage and others would have us believe.

[baggiematt]

There is another way of looking at migration. In recent years it is predominantly students who are the biggest portion of migrants to the uk. Generally they are young, spending money, live in shared accommodation, are not bringing families, speak the language, are sensible/articulate and tend to work.

To stay in the country they need to work in a role that we need and can’t fill ourselves. If not they leave.

If anything, they’re funding our healthcare, propping up our ageing population, contributing to the economy and not taking up housing rather than clogging up the system.