Watching ice cold killers and other murders abroad.
And one murder outcome I like
Is
Life without parole.
Why not more here?
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Watching ice cold killers and other murders abroad.
And one murder outcome I like
Is
Life without parole.
Why not more here?
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ECHR probably.
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Crash, don't get me going. Regarding ice cold killers proven beyond reasonable doubt and my favourite phrase is....'' You shall be hung by your neck until you are dead''Originally Posted by crashbang
Oops, I've opened it up now haven't I. Think how many would give up more prison space and less cost to the tax payer. Levi Bellfield and Ian Huntley for starters. I'd come out of retirement and take the Kings shilling just to pull the lever.
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But they didn't do that, they didn't strangle people to death (unless something went badly wrong), that would somewhat inhumane. The drop broke the neck.
So a bit of an odd phrase to use really.
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Mine are O/T Please and Dangling Title.
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Dangling from a rope?
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Groundhog Day!
The standard of proof required in English criminal cases is 'beyond reasonable doubt' (or 'satisfied so as to be sure' in the new money). In other words, the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four, Stefan Kiszko and Sally Clark to name but a few, were found guilty of murder 'beyond reasonable doubt' even though they weren't.
As for Ian Huntley, the guilty verdict in his case was on a 10:2 majority, which indicates that two of the jury who sat through the evidence and heard it tested did not think the case proven 'beyond reasonable doubt'.
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My issue with giving Ian Huntley the Death sentence is that he would welcome it so he does not have to live with the guilt of what he did.
His desire is to die, so being alive is his ultimate punishment.
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Lord Longford calm thi sen down. Okay, I’ll reword my point.
Those that have openly admitted killing someone ie; Bellfield and Huntley, should hang or, be disposed of. They serve no meaning by being incarcerated for the rest of their lives. They are pure evil and will never be cured. Given the opportunity to be released, I dare say they would kill again.
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I responded to your post in a measured fashion. Why would I need to calm down and why the Longford comparison?
Neither Huntley nor Bellfield admitted murder, openly or otherwise. Huntley's case was that the death of his two victims was accidental and, as I mentioned above (whilst not calm and chanelling Longford, apparently), 2 jury members (i.e. two people who actually heard the evidence) were not convinced that Huntley was guilty. Whether that was because they accepted that the deaths may have been accidental or because they thought him guilty of manslaughter we will never know.
And where do you stand over Stefan Kiszko? He did admit the killing of Lesley Moleseed to the police and his defence team ran his defence upon the basis that he had killed her but was not guilty of manslaughter by way of diminished responsibilty. The only problem was that he had not killed her. Had he been hung, it has to be likely that the real killer, Ronald Castree would still be walking amongst us.
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