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    Promotion... You're having a laugh...

    Well here we find ourselves desperately clinging on to the final play off spot, having once again failed to kill a team off. Chesterfield were there for the taking, following a drop in their performances.
    Enter Notts County, having had the lions share of the first 45 minutes, indeed going in at half time with a 1 goal advantage, the same old cracks cost us dearly in the second 45 minutes, piss poor defending gifted McGuire a brace, whilst a 90th minute penalty killed off any hope of salvaging a point. I was as bemused at the decision to sack Ardley as I was bemused by the appointment of Burchnall... but I do not see any complaints from Solihull Moors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pissedoffmagpiesback View Post
    Well here we find ourselves desperately clinging on to the final play off spot, having once again failed to kill a team off. Chesterfield were there for the taking, following a drop in their performances.
    Enter Notts County, having had the lions share of the first 45 minutes, indeed going in at half time with a 1 goal advantage, the same old cracks cost us dearly in the second 45 minutes, piss poor defending gifted McGuire a brace, whilst a 90th minute penalty killed off any hope of salvaging a point. I was as bemused at the decision to sack Ardley as I was bemused by the appointment of Burchnall... but I do not see any complaints from Solihull Moors...
    Welcome back mate. This season has seen us once again fail to address our frailties. We have been crying out for a Bishop type midfielder, but what do we get ? some 5ft 6in on loan from Sheff Und. Also, although Wootton has scored a few goals he very seldom appears in the box when crosses come in. If its not on a plate he doesn't want to know...We need a striker who can anticipate where to be at certain times and Wootton is no that one.
    Rodrigues is another of those who flatters to deceive, i would get rid of both of them in the summer.. Has for Burchnall, pretty football does not win you promotion. If by October we are still underachieving then get rid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by durhampie View Post
    Welcome back mate. This season has seen us once again fail to address our frailties. We have been crying out for a Bishop type midfielder, but what do we get ? some 5ft 6in on loan from Sheff Und. Also, although Wootton has scored a few goals he very seldom appears in the box when crosses come in. If its not on a plate he doesn't want to know...We need a striker who can anticipate where to be at certain times and Wootton is no that one.
    Rodrigues is another of those who flatters to deceive, i would get rid of both of them in the summer.. Has for Burchnall, pretty football does not win you promotion. If by October we are still underachieving then get rid...
    Careful, Laddo will be on your case again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uysapie View Post
    Careful, Laddo will be on your case again.
    I would imagine he has been sedated in some secure unit.. Those places only let you out during daylight hours..

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    Quote Originally Posted by durhampie View Post
    I would imagine he has been sedated in some secure unit.. Those places only let you out during daylight hours..
    Now there's a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by durhampie View Post
    Welcome back mate. This season has seen us once again fail to address our frailties. We have been crying out for a Bishop type midfielder, but what do we get ? some 5ft 6in on loan from Sheff Und. Also, although Wootton has scored a few goals he very seldom appears in the box when crosses come in. If its not on a plate he doesn't want to know...We need a striker who can anticipate where to be at certain times and Wootton is no that one.
    Rodrigues is another of those who flatters to deceive, i would get rid of both of them in the morning summer.. Has for Burchnall, pretty football does not win you promotion. If by October we are still underachieving then get rid...
    Ahhh Durham. The font of all footballing knowledge. Although football is about opinions facts are not. The lad on loan from Sheff Utd. is 5ft 9in. Not the 5ft 6in you claim.
    It’s all well and good getting rid of players, but they need replacing. If as you suggest we lose Wootton and Rodders, and we replace them with worse, then what? Notts are not the club who will go out and splash 300k on a player. Anyone who thinks we will are deluded.
    We have continually got rid of players and in the main replaced them with worse players. That is why we are where we are. There are a lot of players plying a trade in leagues above us. Many were deemed not good enough.
    Though I do agree we need a fox in the box type of striker, I would have him in partnership with Wootton rather than replace him. That decision is likely to be taken away from Notts and the man deemed crap by you will (unlike Notts) be back in the EFL.

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    Ardley could well turn out to be one of those Notts managers who ends up being remembered as being far better than he actually was due to who he was replaced with. I'm still clinging to the hope that Ardley will go down as the all time low point.

    Looks like Solihull away on Tuesday will take on a great deal more significance than just the three points, one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    Ardley could well turn out to be one of those Notts managers who ends up being remembered as being far better than he actually was due to who he was replaced with. I'm still clinging to the hope that Ardley will go down as the all time low point.

    Looks like Solihull away on Tuesday will take on a great deal more significance than just the three points, one way or the other.
    Given how difficult it is to get out of this division vs how much more straightforward it should be to save yourselves from League two relegation then the Ardley/Hardy combo should always be the low point (unless at some point we are not serious promotion challengers in this div).

    People are comparing Ardleys record to Burchnall but I suspect the current incumbent has faced more sides with a higher playing budget than Ardley did given the strength of the league. In Ardleys 100 odd games in charge (including more than half a season in league 2 where he completely failed his brief - he took over in Nov FFS) there will only be a handful of matches where the opposition had a higher wage bill and the football he served up was chit too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    Ardley could well turn out to be one of those Notts managers who ends up being remembered as being far better than he actually was due to who he was replaced with. I'm still clinging to the hope that Ardley will go down as the all time low point.

    Looks like Solihull away on Tuesday will take on a great deal more significance than just the three points, one way or the other.
    I think Ardley's a bit like McParland, people liked him much better after he'd left but not for what he did as our manager.

    Ardley was a lovely bloke for sure, but his football was cr*p and despite the many opportunities he had he couldn't deliver what was asked of him, be that avoiding relegation or getting promoted.

    Everyone knows this league is a nightmare to get out of and we have no divine right to claim that automatic spot, so if we're continuosly going to be in the playoffs, which I believe we will be, then give me Ian Burchnall and his style of football any day of the week. Anyone else coming in would be a very similar appointment as thats the way our board want to run the club.

    There's still a lot of points to play for, imo we've been looking at the playoffs as our only chance to go up for a while, the players haven't but will be soon coming around to it, whatever Ardley does I couldn't care less about, Notts fans have always been really clinging to certain people and he seems to be another one that fans just won't let go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    Everyone knows this league is a nightmare to get out of and we have no divine right to claim that automatic spot, so if we're continuously going to be in the playoffs, which I believe we will be, then give me Ian Burchnall and his style of football any day of the week. Anyone else coming in would be a very similar appointment as thats the way our board want to run the club.
    I certainly prefer Ian Burchnall's brand of the passing game to Neal Ardley's, but I don't think we should face a binary choice of passing football versus direct/physical football. The teams that have won the National League in recent years have all been able to play a bit, but they've also had that bit of edge to them as well, being able to get stuck in and compete when that was required. At present we're not showing enough ability to do the latter, but I'm sure it's possible to build that mentality into the side whilst still aiming to play an attractive game when we can. It's the old adage that you have to earn the right to play.

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