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    Possible solutions for QOS

    Apart from investing heavily in new players, Queens must make the best use of their existing squad. One major way of improving fitness, boosting confidence and sharpness is to bring in double training sessions.

    This sounds drastic, but any full time player should be capable of the following brief example:

    1) A decent, 2 hour morning work-out based on fitness with a lot of ball work.
    2) A relaxing, healthy lunch, where the players interact and discuss aspects of the morning session.
    3) A combined afternoon session of 1.5 hours which involves the defence and the attack; 3 against 1, 2 against 1, 4 against 2. etc. etc. - this will concentrate on problem areas all over the park.
    4) One touch passing using the channels ending in attacker v keeper scenarios, - i.e. 1 on 1.
    5) Shooting practice at both ends of the ground involving 2 keepers.
    6) A 15 minute game of one touch football over half the pitch.
    7) A cool down and stretch with plenty of banter to increase confidence.

    So a working day of 3.5 hours that's all. How many of the supporters work just 3.5 hours a day?

    There are 1000's of potential ways of solving Queens goal drought, defensive frailties and psychological anxiety, - and I'm sure some of our supporters will be happy to offer their tuppence worth, - however the status quo is not working and simply continuing with the same training regime is not an option.

    Andy Murray did not become the World's Number One by sitting on his arse, - his mother kicked it for the first 20 years of his life, - and since then he has changed and honed his training regime to make him the best.

    I'm sorry if players don't like the prospect of an extra 1.5 hours a day training, but until they start producing the goods, - then that's the very, very least that they can give their supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jardi View Post
    Apart from investing heavily in new players, Queens must make the best use of their existing squad. One major way of improving fitness, boosting confidence and sharpness is to bring in double training sessions.

    This sounds drastic, but any full time player should be capable of the following brief example:

    1) A decent, 2 hour morning work-out based on fitness with a lot of ball work.
    2) A relaxing, healthy lunch, where the players interact and discuss aspects of the morning session.
    3) A combined afternoon session of 1.5 hours which involves the defence and the attack; 3 against 1, 2 against 1, 4 against 2. etc. etc. - this will concentrate on problem areas all over the park.
    4) One touch passing using the channels ending in attacker v keeper scenarios, - i.e. 1 on 1.
    5) Shooting practice at both ends of the ground involving 2 keepers.
    6) A 15 minute game of one touch football over half the pitch.
    7) A cool down and stretch with plenty of banter to increase confidence.

    So a working day of 3.5 hours that's all. How many of the supporters work just 3.5 hours a day?

    There are 1000's of potential ways of solving Queens goal drought, defensive frailties and psychological anxiety, - and I'm sure some of our supporters will be happy to offer their tuppence worth, - however the status quo is not working and simply continuing with the same training regime is not an option.

    Andy Murray did not become the World's Number One by sitting on his arse, - his mother kicked it for the first 20 years of his life, - and since then he has changed and honed his training regime to make him the best.

    I'm sorry if players don't like the prospect of an extra 1.5 hours a day training, but until they start producing the goods, - then that's the very, very least that they can give their supporters.
    What is the Queen's training/schedule at present ? - do they sit around drinking tea all day ?

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    I have no idea Admin, - I am merely suggesting that their training schedule should be increased.

    However, if you and others are perfectly happy with watching our team being taken apart by teams like Dundee Utd then that's fine, but don't expect me or anyone else for that matter to come along and spend our Saturdays afternoons watching players who are not willing to put in some extra training.

    Yes I play devil's advocate on this board, - but I do hope that Gavin is reading it too, - because believe me Hibs will be wanting to put one over us at Easter Road, and Lennon many not be a very nice man, but I can assure you he will not be suggesting that his players take it easy any time soon.

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    This training regime talk always crops up when the team are doing badly and I have brought it up before myself. I trust Skelton knows how to train the team and would be happy to let him get on with just that. The thing I would like to mention is the sheer will to win about other teams bigger than us. Look at Dundee United on Saturday for example. Their players seemed to be twice as energetic as us and really swarmed all over Queens. This is more mindset than fitness and I dont know how you recreate this attitude at a club like ours. I have been at plenty of home games were Qos don't seem to wake up until the second half. Why is this ? Surely you train all week and everything is primed to be ready, steady go at 3pm on a Saturday. Think about how many late, late goals the old firm have scored over the decades. This is not lucky and these players are conditioned to keep bursting a gut until and only when the referee blows for full time.
    Last edited by JRSLEFTPEG; 07-11-2016 at 11:13 AM.

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    They put in a mini training session before the game and looked shattered after it. Maybe tone that down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSLEFTPEG View Post
    This training regime talk always crops up when the team are doing badly and I have brought it up before myself. I trust Skelton knows how to train the team and would be happy to let him get on with just that. The thing I would like to mention is the sheer will to win about other teams bigger than us. Look at Dundee United on Saturday for example. Their players seemed to be twice as energetic as us and really swarmed all over Queens. This is more mindset than fitness and I dont know how you recreate this attitude at a club like ours. I have been at plenty of home games were Qos don't seem to wake up until the second half. Why is this ? Surely you train all week and everything is primed to be ready, steady go at 3pm on a Saturday. Think about how many late, late goals the old firm have scored over the decades. This is not lucky and these players are conditioned to keep bursting a gut until and only when the referee blows for full time.

    Whilst I agree with your point JRS, it is not just the bigger clubs who are physically and mentally imposing themselves on our team. The best recent example of this was Morton who totally overwhelmed our players from start to finish.
    Morton are hardly any bigger a club than Queens and I would suggest the opposition's mindset comes from the manager's philosophy and instilment of a 90 minute work ethic into their players.

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    "Why weren't you asking for extra training seasons when we were winning?"

    Arrol, the obvious response to that question is self explanatory and does not require any further reasoning.

    I would ask everyone a simple question: How do you get better at something, - be it a language, playing a computer game or a sport?
    A. you practice.

    How do you get really good? ..............you practice more.

    Now, I may be totally barking mad, but if you take that scenario to football and if your defence is leaking goals, - you practice like hell until you stop letting them in.

    Equally, as I mentioned weeks ago, I would have had young Lindon Dykes (and Dobbie and the rest) practising one on one's with the goal-keeper till they could do them in their sleep!

    So if anyone thinks I'm being a wee bit harsh when we have scored only one goal in God knows how many matches, - and lost more than I care to remember, - then I think we Queens fans have lost the plot.

    I am merely asking for an extra 1.5 hours a day practice from full time professional footballers in an attempt to get them out of a rut, - I'm not asking them to build the Burma railway!

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    Why weren't you asking for extra training seasons when we were winning ?

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    I must admit that I have watched these pre-match workouts before and thought they looked exhausting , wondering if they were ideal preparation for 90 mins of football.

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    Shuggle - I get your point about Morton although I wasn't at this game as was abroad. This mindset , as you have proved , is not wholly 'owned' by bigger clubs BUT seems to be a major feature in the big boys footballing outlook. I can accept that the likes of Dundee United will virtually always have players of better ability than us because of the club's prestige and football budget of course. What I can't accept is that they as a full time team would play with more vigour and will to win than a full time team in ourselves. -------I played only at amateur level and football is an exhausting game. Maybe someone with knowledge of football training / sports science can tell us why it's wise to seemingly exhaust your players before the game has started in a pre-match warm up ?
    Last edited by JRSLEFTPEG; 07-11-2016 at 04:14 PM.

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