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    Who claims Rafa's style is negative

    Since the start of last season, no side in the top four tiers of English football has won more away league games than Newcastle (15, level with Chelsea and Exeter).

    Newcastle, meanwhile, have fired in 13 shots on target in away Premier League games, with only league leaders Manchester United (16) having more so far this campaign.


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    I couldn´t care less if we are defensive ('negative' is the wrong word) away from home. We are a newly promoted club and survival is everything this season. I would accept a point away before any game this season.

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    we have a team ethic and a gameplan.

    if we stick to it and have a little self belief, we can make up for some of our squads weaknesses. (we need to remember, every team has weaknesses, we just need to expose theirs more often than they expose ours)

    I'm not expecting to beat the top 5 or even to challenge the top 7.

    but I expect us to give it a go, in EVERY game.

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    Must say that Rafa has frustrated me at times by playing his set regimen constantly, especially at home games. Far be it from me to tell him how to do it but at times I'd like to see the shackles come off a bit to see just how dominant we can be. Having said that, I guess you can't argue with the success he has had at moulding the team especially with the little help he has had from Fat Arse !

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    Rafa is class. World class.

    Just look at his record

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    Everyone wh went to watch them last season
    negative footy and results are two different things

    you can win being positive and attacking and entertaining just like kk

    but you can also grind out boring 1-0 wins

    i know what i would prefer to watch

    negative footy has nothing to do with results its the way in which you play

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    Everyone wh went to watch them last season
    negative footy and results are two different things

    you can win being positive and attacking and entertaining just like kk

    but you can also grind out boring 1-0 wins

    i know what i would prefer to watch

    negative footy has nothing to do with results its the way in which you play
    So are these facts negative then.

    Since the start of last season, no side in the top four tiers of English football has won more away league games than Newcastle (15, level with Chelsea and Exeter).

    Newcastle, meanwhile, have fired in 13 shots on target in away Premier League games, with only league leaders Manchester United (16) having more so far this campaign.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    so are these facts negative then.

    Since the start of last season, no side in the top four tiers of english football has won more away league games than newcastle (15, level with chelsea and exeter).

    Newcastle, meanwhile, have fired in 13 shots on target in away premier league games, with only league leaders manchester united (16) having more so far this campaign.


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    no but they are irrelevant to what most see as negative footy
    and many have said even last year with positive results the footy was negative

    you are deliberatly mixing up negative football with negative results

    even yesterday we defended and hung on and got a psoitive result
    however the footy was pretty negative

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    Everyone wh went to watch them last season
    negative footy and results are two different things

    you can win being positive and attacking and entertaining just like kk

    but you can also grind out boring 1-0 wins

    i know what i would prefer to watch

    negative footy has nothing to do with results its the way in which you play
    But Pboro, we have to be down to earth and realistic here.

    We would all love to see the team play the way KK had them playing, but the problem is with Ashley more than it is with Rafa.

    You are looking at about £250 million at least at today's prices to build a team compared to what KK paid at his time, and remember that he broke the ten world record to bring Shearer home.

    Could you see Ashley sanctioning that, even for regular Champions League football. and would Ashley sanction the huge wages those sort of players would demand to stay here. Answer, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER.

    Another point is that how many clubs in the Premiership play that way now.

    Answers on a postage stamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    But Pboro, we have to be down to earth and realistic here.

    We would all love to see the team play the way KK had them playing, but the problem is with Ashley more than it is with Rafa.

    You are looking at about £250 million at least at today's prices to build a team compared to what KK paid at his time, and remember that he broke the ten world record to bring Shearer home.

    Could you see Ashley sanctioning that, even for regular Champions League football.

    Another point is that how many clubs in the Premiership play that way now.

    Answers on a postage stamp.
    I loved the entertainers but we won zilch.The likes of Man Utd could grind out results.I remember the season where we were 12 points ahead of them at one stage,they plodded on getting 1-0 wins away from home usually scored by Cantona.Meanwhile we were pounding teams like Blackburn and getting beat.

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